X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:31:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta13.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1937368 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:39:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.44; envelope-from=dfs155@adelphia.net Received: from dan ([76.182.154.154]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20070322183902.UTKJ6520.mta13.adelphia.net@dan> for ; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:39:02 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <008801c76cb1$5d3ae320$0401a8c0@dan> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: [LML] Re: Aileron Flutter X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:39:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Randy Stuart wrote: "I've installed four small ribs made from 4 bid on each aileron." Randy, I hope you've put some small drain holes in those ribs at the lowest spot. If not, water can collect in the counterbalances - not a good thing! Having watched a number of wind tunnel flutter tests of aerodynamic surfaces and how quickly flutter onset can tear them off, I'd say you need to persevere until your ailerons are rock steady in any flight regime. Besides adding the counterbalance ribs, the suggestion (by someone on the list) to rig the ailerons slightly off-trail, to pre-load the control linkages, is also a good idea. On my early 235, I did both and have never experienced the slightest aileron "buzz" (or anything related) even when I carefully explored the entire flight envelope - plus 10% - during flight test. Another thing I did was to cherry pick all the bolts and rod-ends in the flight control system for minimum clearance. Because AN hardware is manufacured with some tolerances, picking bolts with diameters on the high side and rod-ends with bores on the low side (even though only maybe half a thousandth or less) resulted in very minmal control system slop. Kinda tedious, but in my opinion, worth the bother. Fly safe! Dan Schaefer Early LNC2 N235SP