X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:54:07 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ironport5.liveoakmail.com ([216.110.12.21] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1937289 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:52:16 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.110.12.21; envelope-from=walter@advancedpilot.com Received: from rs5.liveoakhosting.com (HELO secure5.liveoakhosting.com) ([64.49.254.21]) by ironport5.liveoakmail.com with ESMTP; 22 Mar 2007 12:51:27 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAKdeAkZAMf4VeWdsb2JhbACPJgEBCQ4q X-IronPort-AV: i="4.14,315,1170655200"; d="scan'208"; a="6848305:sNHT40018811" Received: (qmail 18614 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2007 12:51:28 -0500 Received: from 216-107-97-170.wan.networktel.net (HELO ?10.0.1.3?) (216.107.97.170) by rs5.liveoakhosting.com with (AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 22 Mar 2007 12:51:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: <5F47CE15-812B-4D85-BF62-AC628D955DFD@advancedpilot.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Walter Atkinson Subject: Re: [LML] carbureted lean-of-peak X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:51:08 -0500 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Bob: My comment? "You have it right." Walter On Mar 21, 2007, at 11:14 PM, bob mackey wrote: Thee procedures in the instructions posted by Kevin Kossi ( http://lancaironline.net/lists/lml/Message/40829.html ) don't make much sense to me. While going from full rich to full lean, every cylinder should pass through each fuel/air ratio. Each cylinder's peak EGT will occur when that cylinder's fuel-air mixture is near the stoichiometric mixture of about 15:1 (air:fuel). The leanest cylinder is the one that reaches its peak EGT earliest, or at the highest fuel flow. Not the one that peaks at the lowest temperature. Any differences in the maximum EGT are caused by differences in thermocouples, their placement, compression, or air flow to the cylinder. It doesn't tell whether that cylinder is leaner or richer than the others at a given mixture setting. > H. Repeat paragraphs A through E. on cylinders 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6. > Now you have established the PEAK EGT for each cylinder. ... > Now select the cylinder that peaked at the lowest temperature. > This is the CRITICAL cylinder > .... The only way this would make sense is if the variation between cylinders was primarily due to compression. The one with highest compression and the greatest risk of detonation, would be the one with the lowest EGT. At higher compression ratios, more energy is extracted from the charge during the expansion stroke. It would take fairly large changes in compression ratio to exceed the typical variations in thermocouples and their installations. Sometimes Lycosaurus manufacturing tolerances are sloppy, but they're not THAT sloppy. My point is... we probably want to pay attention to *when* the EGT peaks for each cylinder, rather than the temperature at that peak. Large differences in peak temperature could be indicative of other problems, like a bad spark plug, sticky valve, mouse in the intake, etc. Or maybe I'm missing something and peak EGT is actually indicative of which cylinder is leanest. Walter? Care to comment? Oh and BTW, the richest cylinder is critical when LOP, and the leanest cylinder is critical when rich of peak. -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/ List.html