X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 64 [XX] (50%) URL: contains host with port number (50%) SPAMTRICK: obfuscated phone number Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:35:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from alnrmhc13.comcast.net ([206.18.177.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1936098 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:28:09 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.18.177.53; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from hafenj1 (unknown[160.7.232.186]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc13) with SMTP id <20070322042721b1300pugf4e>; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 04:27:21 +0000 From: "John Hafen" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" , Subject: Six partial or complete engine failures so far..... X-Original-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:27:20 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <005001c76c3a$62454bc0$bae807a0@engagethoughtware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0051_01C76C08.17AADBC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C76C08.17AADBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ken: =20 What are the details of the 6 partial/complete engine failures? = Anything we can learn? =20 John Hafen IV-P N413AJ 50% =20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of marv@lancair.net Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:44 AM To: lml Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair vs Eclipse =20 Posted for Kenneth Wolf : Come on guys. Brent's attack ad is unfair and in part wrong. The Eclipse = will do 372K, not 275. It will carry 6, not 4 passengers. RVSM and 135=20 capability are delivered with all aircraft at this time. The fact that = the=20 type rating is center line thrust is a great compliment and speaks of = great=20 single engine handliing with the Eclipse. Upset training and recurrent=20 training are good things, not issues to be scoffed at. Flight into known icing=20 is on the adjenda. Brent says he'll take his Lancair 4P. The 4P at my airport=20 has had 6 partial or complete engine failures so far!=20 Ken Wolf BTW, my comment on the 4P takes the Lancair out of context and paints = the=20 entire fleet badly and unfairly, just as did Brent's comments unfairly reflect=20 on the Eclipse.=20 =20 -- =20 For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01C76C08.17AADBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ken:

What are the details of the 6 partial/complete engine failures? Anything we can = learn?

John Hafen

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Subject: [LML] Re: = Lancair vs Eclipse

Posted for Kenneth Wolf <mainewolfs@verizon.net>:

Come on guys. Brent's attack ad is unfair and in part wrong. The Eclipse =
will do 372K, not 275. It will carry 6, not 4 passengers. RVSM and 135 =
capability are delivered with all aircraft at this time. The fact that = the
type rating is center line thrust is a great compliment and speaks of = great
single engine handliing with the Eclipse. Upset training and recurrent =
training are good things, not issues to be scoffed at. Flight into known = icing
is on the adjenda. Brent says he'll take his Lancair 4P. = The 4P = at my airport
has had 6 partial or complete engine failures so far!

Ken Wolf

BTW, my comment on the 4P takes the Lancair out of context and paints = the
entire fleet badly and unfairly, just as did Brent's comments unfairly = reflect
on the Eclipse.

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