X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:18:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [70.62.14.124] (HELO server1.USTEK) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1915463 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:03:47 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=70.62.14.124; envelope-from=lancair@USTEK.COM Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76429.5AA167B4" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: how much is "enough" runway X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-Original-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:00:39 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: how much is "enough" runway Thread-Index: Acdin+EvV3C/PZJ3TVyXydyMubqD0QBiNN/5 References: From: "Lancair" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76429.5AA167B4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Gene. I am still in the learning phase with the ES and looking = forward to becoming comfortable with 2500' paved. Perhaps the high = energy brakes will add some benefit. =20 Robert M. Simon ES-P N301ES ________________________________ From: Lancair Mailing List on behalf of Gene Underland >How would you contrast that with the ES/ES-P requirements? Since getting used to the ES, I have landed on a 1500 foot portion of a = paved section on a 3000'grass runway and sometimes stop before the end = and sometimes run off onto the grass. I have worked off a 2500 foot = grass runway with no problem. 2 people and low on fuel. 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