X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [70.62.14.124] (HELO server1.USTEK) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1904848 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:28:56 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=70.62.14.124; envelope-from=rsimon@ustek.com Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Ground-plane X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-Original-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:30:16 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Ground-plane Thread-Index: AcdfxLSXh4Go9Qm/RDSk6uZ4bMVFFQAM3LEg From: "Lancair" X-Original-Sender: "Robert Simon" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" If a solid sheet of metal were used the differences among the metals might not be great. However if you were to choose particulates there would be a great difference. Metallic paints could be filled with nickel, copper, or silver particles (I have yet to see one with gold filler but in for an ounce, in for a pound). As the paint ages an oxide forms on the surface of the metal particles. That increases the paint's sheet resistivity and degrades the its performance. Copper oxides are more resistive compared to silver and nickel and for that reason all EMI shielding paints use silver or nickel, usually in the form of Ni or Ag plated cheaper substrates in a cost reduction ploy. The substrates chosen include copper, glass, and graphite in powder, sphere, or fiber form. =20 There was a project at Battelle Memorial Institute attempting to use a modified aluminum and we found that aging copper and aluminum filled materials made them useless. The best were the most expensive materials (go figure) including silver and nickel plated copper powder and similarly metalized graphite fibers. Lab plaques of these configurations tested about the same initially. However later testing showed that wide variations in temperature and strong mechanical shock could degrade performance. This seemed to be due to microfissures being formed in the film layer. =20 Two years ago I dug out some old test results and discussed the alternatives with Avidyne nee Ryan. Their experience has demonstrated similar performance in the real world, i.e. the silver paint worked fine initially but a couple years of use showed a gradual reduction in effectiveness. Ryan suggested aluminum or copper foil. =20 I chose Ni plated graphite fiber fabric to test. We laid up plaques and sent to an open field site for evaluation. The results were very similar in effectiveness to sheet aluminum. Based on experience that showed aging would not be a major concern, I went this route by making a 2-veil metallized graphite lay up over the graphite fuselage, which was then covered with micro and faired in. So far it seems to work fine. =20 Robert M. Simon ES-P N301ES ________________________________ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tom Gourley Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:52 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Ground-plane 1.) The counterpoise should be either aluminum, copper, or gold. =20 2.) Actually silver has the highest conductivity of all metals, which is probably why it's used to plate the center conductor of some coax cable;