X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:43:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from proxy1.addr.com ([38.113.244.28] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTPS id 1839694 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 10:42:31 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=38.113.244.28; envelope-from=timothy.ong@leadingedgeaircraft.com Received: from TimOng (bc120150.bendcable.com [66.220.120.150]) by proxy1.addr.com (8.12.11/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id l1FFg5Ma092459 for ; Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:42:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Timothy Ong" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Night vision goggles X-Original-Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 07:42:04 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <026701c75117$dba379d0$6501a8c0@TimOng> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0268_01C750D4.CD8039D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdQv503+DJMmK6iRDaztrRcv8IplwAV8gwA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 In-Reply-To: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0268_01C750D4.CD8039D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I concur with Jeff's observations. I have used FLIR and night vision goggles. The night vision goggles penetrate fog and smoke much better than the FLIR. Even if you mounted the night vision goggles on a helmet like we used in the Army, and had NVG lighting in the cabin, you would still have to contend with a major issue..Depth perception. It takes a lot of training and currency to use them effectively, especially for a night landing. Regards, Timothy Ong _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of VTAILJEFF@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:10 PM To: lml Subject: [LML] Re: Night vision goggles In a message dated 2/14/2007 8:36:10 PM Central Standard Time, rienk.ayers@sreyaaviation.com writes: That is with no light... though fog and smoke will hinder the image some, the vision penetration is still amazing. Rienk, I had the opportunity to operate Navy FLIR's onboard the A-6 Intruder. One of the limits of the FLIR is it cannot see through smoke,dense fog or clouds. It works on temperature differential and if the obscuring phenomona is thick enough --everything is nearly isothermic. Jeff Edwards LIVP ------=_NextPart_000_0268_01C750D4.CD8039D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I concur with Jeff’s observations.  I have used FLIR and night vision goggles.  The = night vision goggles penetrate fog and smoke much better than the = FLIR.

 

Even if you mounted the night = vision goggles on a helmet like we used in the Army, and had NVG lighting in = the cabin, you would still have to contend with a major issue….Depth perception.  It takes a lot of training and currency to use them effectively, especially for a night = landing.

 

Regards,

 

Timothy = Ong

 

From: = Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of VTAILJEFF@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February = 14, 2007 9:10 PM
To: lml
Subject: [LML] Re: Night = vision goggles

 

In a message dated 2/14/2007 = 8:36:10 PM Central Standard Time, rienk.ayers@sreyaaviation.com = writes:

That is with no light... though = fog and smoke will
hinder the image some, the vision penetration is still = amazing.

Rienk,

=

 

=

I had the opportunity to operate = Navy FLIR's onboard the A-6 Intruder. One of the limits of the FLIR is it = cannot see through smoke,dense fog or clouds. It works on temperature differential = and if the obscuring phenomona is thick enough --everything is nearly = isothermic.

 

=

Jeff = Edwards

LIVP

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