X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Received: from [68.202.132.19] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1.6) with HTTP id 1827821 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:53:19 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: More Boost Pump Summary -- the WORD from Joe Bartels To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1.6 Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 23:53:19 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008001c74cce$80ef9f70$82e807a0@engagethoughtware.com> References: <008001c74cce$80ef9f70$82e807a0@engagethoughtware.com> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "John Hafen" : Thanks Bob: If I remember correctly, once you got into a flat spin in the F4, it didn't matter much what the checklist said. If you got beyond "Stick Forward, Ailerons and Rudder Neutral, If not recovered maintain full forward stick and deploy drag chute" the next thing to do was climb overboard. John Hafen """ Having flown military fighters for 20+ years, I can tell you without reservation that the original checklists provided by the manufacturers--Lockheed, General Dynamics and McDonald Douglass in my case--were "starting points" for what we came to use over the years. Every one was constantly refined, adjusted and (in the case of the F-4 spin recovery procedure, completely rewritten), based on experience during actual operations. The emergency procedures sections were especially volatile, and changed frequently because of "lessons learned," many the hard way. """