Return-Path: Received: from pop.centurytel.net ([209.142.136.253]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 11:10:33 -0500 Received: from pavilion (ppp012.pa.centurytel.net [209.142.129.154]) by pop.centurytel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA15183 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:14:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002e01bf31e0$376897a0$9a818ed1@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Subject: More on fuel tanks; weights; stall speed of ES Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:15:56 -0600 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> One further thought on whether or not to open up more bays to increase fuel capacity on the ES: With the extra fuel weight, we are departing the envelope of known, tested wing characteristics. The flutter analysis, structural failure analyses, etc., were all done assuming a max wt of fuel of 39 gals x 6 = 234 lbs per wing. By going up to 105 total, there is an additional 80 lbs, roughly, out there waggling up and down. Yes, the wing is hell for stout, but .... Wouldn't it be nice if Carsten would post his data base of completed weights for the ES so we could really see what's typical? [Maybe we shouldn't hold our collective breath, eh?] The stall speed on my ES was around 70, but after adding gap seals on all control surfaces, it came down to about 63, dirty. There were few more knots in cruise as well. The gap seal materials all came from Wings 'n Wheels, a glider supply place ( www.wingsandwheels.com ). It's a three-part deal: there's a double-sided tape about 1/2" wide that goes on first, then the curved mylar seal tape, then a teflon tape that overlaps the mylar on the leading edge to smooth the transition. The double-sided stuff really sticks, but I did mine before the first wax job; if you've already waxed, you'll probably want to do some extra cleaning to get a good bond of tape to paint. To do all the gaps, upper and lower (ailerons, flaps, elevators, and rudder) took about one good morning and about $200. For the different surfaces and gap geometry I needed three different widths of the mylar seal. Looks nice, too, I think. After maybe 30 hours I didn't see any evidence of corners or edges pulling loose. Jim Cameron (once & future ES) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>