Return-Path: Received: from pop.centurytel.net ([209.142.136.253]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:30:34 -0500 Received: from pavilion (ppp032.pa.centurytel.net [209.142.129.174]) by pop.centurytel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA26375; Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:34:57 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <001101bf303f$f796eec0$0100007f@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Cc: "Dan O'Brien" Subject: ES weight Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 08:31:28 -0600 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The final empty weight of my Super ES was 2032 pounds, including all the upholstery, paint, etc. Carsten told me at one point that he was keeping a data base of completed weights, but I think the 1900 the factory puts out in the spec sheets is wishful thinking. I do think, however, that 3200 pounds is a more realistic max gross, so at 2032 there is still a lot of payload. With 50 gals of fuel, 4 FAA standard souls, and 100 pounds of baggage, you're at about 3112, and the airplane still climbs like a scalded cat at that weight. The c.g. is comfortably within limits from dead empty to the above example, with still a bit to spare in the aft direction. On the fuel tank subject, you only need about 50 gals for the average trip leg of 2 or 3 hours, which includes a comfortable reserve. The standard 78gal capacity is more than enough, particularly when you can lean the IO-550-G2B to around 12 gph at 10,000'. Jim Cameron (one & future ES) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>