X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:56:59 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.63] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with ESMTP id 1688088 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:45:56 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.63; envelope-from=douglasbrunner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Vt/WP3+R3GlaHhMdY+dxJAag62dXHDx/JR3N6ilbY5ubVhBPUJ8wFIf5fVkoZW5t; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.37] (helo=elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1GwPME-0005TL-CY; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:45:10 -0500 Received: from 66.10.5.67 by webmail.pas.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:45:09 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <27321058.1166474710216.JavaMail.root@elwamui-karabash.atl.sa.earthlink.net> X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:45:09 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas Brunner Reply-To: Douglas Brunner X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: electric attitude indicators X-Original-Cc: douglasbrunner@earthlink.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: ad85a799c4f5de37c2eb1477c196d22294f5150ab1c16ac0ca5278c929a4b8ef5b52f65e650bbaa85d9c70d8670467d3350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.37 I have had a failure of a vacuum driven attitude indicator during flight - fortunately in VFR conditions. This was a failure of the instrument, not the vacuum pump. I fail to understand how an experimental plane that has a dual Cheltons, a backup TruTrak ADI and a TruTrak autopilot with its own independent GPS and altimeter can be less safe (from an instrument failure perspective) than a certified plane with a single vacuum A/I and a single vacuum pump - a very common setup. The probability of two things failing together is the product of the probability of each failing separately. If we assume that the Chelton has a failure rate of much less than 1% and the TruTrak ADI has a failure rate of much less than 1%, then the probability that they will both fail is much, much, much less than 1%. And even if they both fail the autopilot is still capable of keeping the plane straight and level. This is a level of redundancy much greater than many certified planes. I plan to use a TruTrak ADI as a backup to my Cheltons and I feel confident that this is not likely to be the "Achilles heel" of my plane. D. Brunner Legacy N241DB "50% done and 80% to go"