X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:46:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([68.142.229.95] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.3) with SMTP id 1687316 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:25:01 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.229.95; envelope-from=earleschroeder@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 26021 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2006 17:24:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Osb6DrHCLSesa+/8kHIq036mQj6fGAMc3vI3UDk4TNEJVz6hAc4WdwKKj7JPIEZPttw7UGfLd+20vhnqE24Hi5LRqzB5Br3xGXcajCEy/EXc2rVI6W3Z1WgcN9tWhW4la1HkqzeZRfcoPvprdzLR0z6iY2YME+i+ceOWszBNMVg= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.100?) (earleschroeder@75.16.234.34 with plain) by smtp110.sbc.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2006 17:24:11 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: G1feiMgVM1li7WXiNvFQa2RKm9u_xX4pzhigUsf8MJ99RtTIMIKKmPVriD6cAWMRcGrUOE5aC9Q6qfOgOpPjBoCCQAlpdhuLb6DGRx.slXpxs9MkRCaLtZtlkpPdC3H31jglb_J2pQadckUsCCJ10fj8otq5ofwpbNN46rOvEmnMwidvzc45Gi_80MAm X-Original-Message-ID: <4586CEB8.808@yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:24:08 -0600 From: Earl Schroeder User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Tubing References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the GE Plastics facility [Lexan, Mt Vernon, IN] and with 30+ years of experience working with compression fittings [Tylok, Gyrolok, and Swagelok] I would not recommend using any of them in our aircraft. Tylok is the most forgiving with Gryolok next but Swagelok is the most likely to fail at the juncture of the two ferrules due to any vibration of the tubing. Over the years, we did may tests to destruction as the vendors attempted to demonstrate their superiority. That is not to say they can not be installed with care [follow the instructions] to function reliability during the life of the aircraft. Their pressure ratings far exceed our requirements but it is the vibration issue that causes them to fail especially if they are overtightened during installation or re tightened after maintenance. I do not have any metal 'compression' fittings in my Lancair. I did use some nylon types in the static system but the plastic tubing withstands vibration much better IMHO. Just my 2 cents.. Earl James Cameron wrote: > For Craig b: Yes, I used Swagelok for some of the hydraulics -- their > pressure ratings are more than adequate. I didn't use it for all, > however, because of the need for bulkhead 90's and 45's, plus the fact > that I already had the flare fittings (paid for) as part of the kit. > > Jim Cameron > Legacy N132X reserved > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.23/591 - Release Date: 12/17/2006 3:17 PM >