X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:36:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m16.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1346383 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:14:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.206; envelope-from=MikeEasley@aol.com Received: from MikeEasley@aol.com by imo-m16.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.53d.8e19a00 (14467) for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MikeEasley@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <53d.8e19a00.321ee269@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 07:07:21 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] IV-P Control Sticks X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1156417641" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5330 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1156417641 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, I've never flown a IV, but the ES control forces are pretty heavy. The extra length on the sticks is a good thing. Most of us are right handed, with weaker left arms. I have teak grips that sit up a little high above the armrests. I like it that way. You rest your arm on the armrest in cruise, just working the stick with your fingers. Then, when you're needing to maneuver, your arm comes up off the armrest to hold the stick, no interference with the armrest. A bunch of ES guys had the same problem with the pilot stick interfering with the door frame. You typically don't notice it until you bond on the top. I lengthened the vertical aileron control tubes a couple turns to tilt the sticks inward a few more degrees to solve the problem. The bad thing about extending the vertical aileron tubes is it throws off your aileron stops on the inside wall of the fuselage. I had to redo my stops. I know the IV control system is different, so I'm not sure if you can do what I did on my ES. I checked with Tim on whether extending those tubes would throw off the geometry of the ailerons. Tim said it was fine to tilt the sticks inward. From a practical sense, you never really deflect the stick that far anyway. Mike Easley Colorado Springs -------------------------------1156417641 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ed,
 
I've never flown a IV, but the ES control forces are pretty heavy. = ;=20 The extra length on the sticks is a good thing.  Most of us are right=20 handed, with weaker left arms.  I have teak grips that sit up a little=20= high=20 above the armrests.  I like it that way.  You rest your arm on the= =20 armrest in cruise, just working the stick with your fingers.  Then= ,=20 when you're needing to maneuver, your arm comes up off the armrest to hold t= he=20 stick, no interference with the armrest.
 
A bunch of ES guys had the same problem with the pilot stick interferin= g=20 with the door frame.  You typically don't notice it until you bond on t= he=20 top.  I lengthened the vertical aileron control tubes a couple turns to= =20 tilt the sticks inward a few more degrees to solve the problem.  The ba= d=20 thing about extending the vertical aileron tubes is it throws off your ailer= on=20 stops on the inside wall of the fuselage.  I had to redo my stops. = ; I=20 know the IV control system is different, so I'm not sure if you can do what=20= I=20 did on my ES.
 
I checked with Tim on whether extending those tubes would throw off the= =20 geometry of the ailerons.  Tim said it was fine to tilt the sticks=20 inward.
 
From a practical sense, you never really deflect the stick that far=20 anyway.
 
Mike Easley
Colorado Springs
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