X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:32:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gateway1.stoel.com ([198.36.178.141] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.3) with ESMTP id 1337322 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:41:15 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=CSLEWIS@stoel.com Received: from sea-mx1.stoel.com (unknown [172.17.103.4]) by gateway1.stoel.com (Firewall Mailer Daemon) with ESMTP id 144B3AF1A5 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:39:36 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6C2E5.0477FF6B" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: prop for legacy X-Original-Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:40:30 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: prop for legacy Thread-Index: AcbCqBSlogtd6R5qQyifiIn4CVdj7wANw39g From: "Lewis III, Charles S." X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C2E5.0477FF6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alan: =20 You said: =20 <<< I know of 3 other Legacy's that have their batteries behind the seats, and the Hydro pump behind the baggage bulkhead. They moved their batteries from the firewall to improve the W&B.... Could it be that they are using the Hartzell prop that weighs 20 more lbs than the AC or the MT and needed the more aft CG? >>>=20 =20 As I have mentioned on this list before, I have the Hartzell 3-blade on my Legacy. Both of my batteries are behind the right seat back (one moved forward and one moved aft), and the hydraulic pump and ELT are behind the left seatback. The only thing aft of the baggage bulkhead is the Crossbow 500 AHRS. My CG is near the front of the envelope with zero fuel, a standard weight pilot and no baggage. My cg is still within the envelope with a 200 lb. pilot, a 200 lb. passenger and 100 lbs. of baggage. I don't fly that way, but I would still be within the envelope if I did. =20 I am very happy with the balance of my airplane. Although my CG is forward far enough that I cannot trim to a stable glide path on short final with one person, no baggage and light fuel, I still have plenty of elevator authority and only a small amount of back pressure is required. The airplane still flares nicely in that condition. =20 Carl Lewis Legacy N14CL =20 =20 _____ =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Don Karich Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:38 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] prop for legacy I have used a three bladed prop from Aero Composites and am very happy with my choice. I especially like it when I see my friend who aso has a legacy with a MT always admiring mine and wishing he had one . It is very smooth in flight and maintenance free. By the way they are very accommodating and easy to work with( the company).=20 =20 The weight is 53 lbs. and I have both of my B&C batteries on the firewall. I advise to keep W&B as far forward as possible. Empty mine is at leading edge of wing. With me a minimal equipment and 15 gal fuel, CG is at front of envelope.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C6C2E5.0477FF6B Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alan:
 
You said:
 
 <<<   I know = of 3 other=20 Legacy's that have their batteries behind the seats, and the Hydro pump = behind=20 the baggage bulkhead.  They moved their batteries from the firewall = to=20 improve the W&B.... Could it be that they are using the Hartzell = prop that=20 weighs 20 more lbs than the AC or the MT and needed the more aft = CG? >>> <= /FONT>
 
As I have=20 mentioned on this list before, I have the Hartzell 3-blade on my = Legacy. =20 Both of my batteries are behind the right seat back (one moved forward = and one=20 moved aft), and the hydraulic pump and ELT are behind the left = seatback. =20 The only thing aft of the baggage bulkhead is the Crossbow 500 = AHRS.  My CG=20 is near the front of the envelope with zero fuel, a standard weight = pilot=20 and no baggage.  My cg is still within the envelope with a 200 lb. = pilot, a=20 200 lb. passenger and 100 lbs. of baggage.  I don't fly that way, = but I=20 would still be within the envelope if I did.
 
I = am very happy=20 with the balance of my airplane.  Although my CG is forward far = enough that=20 I cannot trim to a stable glide path on short final with one person, no=20 baggage and light fuel, I still have plenty of elevator = authority and=20 only a small amount of back pressure is required.  The airplane = still=20 flares nicely in that condition.
 
Carl=20 Lewis
Legacy=20 N14CL
 
 

From: Lancair Mailing List=20 [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Don = Karich
Sent:=20 Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:38 PM
To: Lancair Mailing=20 List
Subject: [LML] prop for legacy

I have used a three bladed prop from = Aero=20 Composites and am  very happy with my choice. I especially like it = when I=20 see my friend who aso has a legacy with a MT always admiring mine and = wishing he=20 had one . It is very smooth in flight and maintenance free. By the way = they are=20 very accommodating and easy to work with( the company).
 
The weight is 53 lbs. and I have both = of my B&C=20 batteries on the firewall. I advise to keep W&B as far forward as = possible.=20 Empty mine is at leading edge of wing. With me a minimal equipment and = 15 gal=20 fuel, CG is at front of envelope.
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