X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 01:40:59 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.213] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1240118 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:27:31 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.213; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from mxip22a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip22a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.152]) by mxsf13.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6HGQfRi022610 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:26:42 -0400 Received: from 68-184-229-22.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com (HELO axs) ([68.184.229.22]) by mxip22a.cluster1.charter.net with SMTP; 17 Jul 2006 12:26:41 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <000701c6a9bd$ca1e3c10$6401a8c0@axs> From: "terrence o'neill" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Hmmm X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:26:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6A993.E05FF6F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2905 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6A993.E05FF6F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pat, Glad you survived it. Back in the mid-fifties the Navy had me = nav-piloting (mostly nav) P2Vs down near the water, out of radar-range = of land for a half-day. Good practice doing DR nav, reading wind drift = on wave-tops, and holding a heading within a half-degree with the = magnesyn compass. Would rather have been way up, where you were. Well, = maybe not -- where you were. Formosa Straits were bad enough. Terrence = O'Neill Original Message -----=20 From: PatHABU@aol.com=20 To: Lancair Mailing List=20 Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:40 PM Subject: [LML] Hmmm Lost in the local area? I suppose we were all there sometime, but = there is no question that GPS has deprived many new pilots of the basic = skills still needed. I remember in my EARLY days of flying the U-2, = back in the mid '50's, we had a radio compass and a sextant and a 4000 = mile range. Now there is a real opportunity to get lost trying to hone = your DR and pilotage skills in a world wide environment Pat Halloran ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6A993.E05FF6F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Pat,
Glad you survived = it. =20 Back in the mid-fifties the Navy had me nav-piloting (mostly nav) P2Vs = down near=20 the water, out of radar-range of land for a half-day.  Good = practice doing=20 DR nav, reading wind drift on wave-tops, and holding a heading within a=20 half-degree with the magnesyn compass.  Would rather have = been way=20 up, where you were. Well, maybe not -- where you were.  Formosa = Straits=20 were bad enough. Terrence O'Neill
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Lost in the local area?  I suppose = we were all=20 there sometime, but there is no question that GPS has deprived many = new pilots=20 of the basic skills still needed.  I remember in my EARLY days of = flying=20 the U-2, back in the mid '50's, we had a radio compass and a sextant = and a=20 4000 mile range.  Now there is a real opportunity to get lost = trying to=20 hone your DR and pilotage skills in a world wide environment Pat=20 Halloran ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C6A993.E05FF6F0--