X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 23:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.113] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1c.2) with ESMTP id 1237649 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 22:51:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.113; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.250.88]) by bay0-omc1-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:45:31 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:45:31 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Received: from 71.34.240.249 by BAY115-DAV16.phx.gbl with DAV; Sat, 15 Jul 2006 02:45:27 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [71.34.240.249] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Sender: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: Hmmm X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:45:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0092_01C6A77E.0D480760" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.20.0029.3000 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 19:45:25 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Jul 2006 02:45:31.0550 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD20C3E0:01C6A7B8] X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C6A77E.0D480760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I give a lot of FAA checkrides. Last Friday a private pilot applicant I = gave a checkride to got lost within 10 miles of his home field, right in = the middle of the VFR practice area. He did not know how to dead reckon = nor navigate via pilotage. His troubles began when I turned off the GPS. = His young 300 hour CFI signed him off as proficient to pass the = checkride-- but did not know how to teach and test navigation skills. = The week before, a commercial pilot applicant was going to fly into = convective activity because he thought I wanted him to maintain a = centered CDI while on the cross country portion. When I pulled the = engine back to simulate an engine out he immediately extended the = landing gear. I have had multi engine applicants shut down the wrong = engine and also attempt gear up landings. Good enough? I don't think so. = The GA community can do better. Jeff It is my turn to get hammered. Those are some interesting experiences. Based on what you report Jeff, = and I only observe this based on what you post, you may be in a similar = situation as law enforcement officers. They, day after day, year after = year, get a warped perception of people, because all they deal with is = the dregs of society. They have been dispatched by society to find = fault. I know a lot of pilots. Some may be not-so-good, average, good, very = good, or excellent. I do not know which ones are which. Maybe you do. = But even the excellent ones make mistakes and cause grief. No matter = what, where, when, there is always room for improvement. I have flown alongside of Fred. I would not hesitate to do it again, = nor would I hesitate to ride with him.=20 Gary Edwards ------=_NextPart_000_0092_01C6A77E.0D480760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I give a lot of FAA checkrides. Last Friday a private pilot = applicant I=20 gave a checkride to got lost within 10 miles of his home field, right in = the=20 middle of the VFR practice area. He did not know how to dead reckon nor = navigate=20 via pilotage. His troubles began when I turned off the GPS. His young = 300 hour=20 CFI signed him off as proficient to pass the checkride-- but did not = know how to=20 teach and test navigation skills. The week before, a commercial pilot=20 applicant was going to fly into convective activity because he = thought=20 I wanted him to maintain a centered CDI while on the cross country = portion. When=20 I pulled the engine back to simulate an engine out he immediately = extended the=20 landing gear. I have had multi engine applicants shut down the wrong = engine and=20 also attempt gear up landings. Good enough? I don't think so. The GA = community=20 can do better.
 
Jeff
 
It is my turn to get hammered.
 
Those are some interesting experiences.  Based on what you = report=20 Jeff, and I only observe this based on what you post, you may be in = a=20 similar situation as law enforcement officers.  They, day after = day, year=20 after year, get a warped perception of people, because all they = deal with=20 is the dregs of society.  They have been dispatched by society = to find=20 fault.
 
I know a lot of pilots.  Some may be not-so-good, average, = good, very=20 good, or excellent.  I do not know which ones are which.  = Maybe you=20 do.  But even the excellent ones make mistakes and cause = grief.  No=20 matter what, where, when, there is always room for improvement.
 
I have flown alongside of Fred.  I would not hesitate to do it = again,=20 nor would I hesitate to ride with him. 
 
Gary Edwards  
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