Return-Path: Received: from pop.centurytel.net ([209.142.136.253]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:03:00 -0400 Received: from pavilion (ppp093.pa.centurytel.net [209.142.129.235]) by pop.centurytel.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA23699 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:07:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000c01bf1b04$86011420$eb818ed1@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Subject: Amine blush; Wire insulation Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:07:01 -0500 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Amine blush: The folks at Jeffco told me that the first thing they do after a layup cures is to wash it with clean, warm water, which removes the sticky film you often get on the surface after cure. Whatever it is, it's water soluble. I did this routinely building my ES, and after the surface dries, it looks and feels clean and not at all tacky. May it's the toe of newt that goes in the witches' brew we call epoxy. Wire insulation: Lots of discussion about this vis-a-vis the MD-11 crash off Canada. Maybe tefzel ain't so hot after all? I've got an e-mail inquiry in to the Belden folks about insulation types, but I'm not convinced that using all (or mostly, see below) tefzel insulated, milspec wire is worth the hassle and expense. It's stiff, the insulation cuts rather easily, it only comes in one color, it's heavy, and it's expensive. Ordinary PVC-insulated hookup wire (like Belden 8524) passes the VW-1 flammability test, is inexpensive, and comes in about fifty colors (including stripe combinations). Besides, how many installations have you seen that use all milspec, tefzel-insulated wire, then add in RG-58 (which is PVC insulated), then run the whole bundle through a PVC pipe (which Lancair supplies as conduit material)??? A better solution would be to use standard aluminum electrical conduit tubing, and for those who want to stick with teflon, Belden's 83000-series wires have teflon insulation, 600V, 200C rating, and come in 10 stock colors (they meet milspec MIL-W-1687E/4 if anyone has the energy to dig it out). Jim Cameron (ex-ES builder, new kit on order for Feb.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html