X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:54:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.137.4] (HELO imo-m23.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1111212 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:46:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.4; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.5.) id q.32a.3b713a5 (48576) for ; Fri, 12 May 2006 18:45:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <32a.3b713a5.31966a03@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 18:45:23 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP Crash X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1147473923" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1147473923 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/12/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, marv@lancaironline.net writes: An interesting dynamic with stick forces. I can't never remember which is which, but a thicker trailing edge provides the opposite of a thinner one. I just can't remember if thick is more forces or thinner is more forces... Ever looked at the Legacy's Rudder TE vs. it's Elevators. Alan [ thicker trailing edge requires less break out force because of seperation -Rob] Alan, Maybe that was the attempt to lighten aileron forces (a failure) in the 300 series since the aileron trailing edge is 1/4 inch thick and squared off. Oh, that's right, it does take quite a bit of force to reach that spec'ed 120 degrees/sec roll rate at 180 KIAS (note the SIZE of the aileron on the Legacy). I can make a pitch change easily by merely pushing the PTT on the stick. Accept it, it makes you a better pilot for when you jump back in a spam can! Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 CS Prop Slow Build 1989, Flown 1996 Aurora, IL (KARR) Eschew Obfuscation! -------------------------------1147473923 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 5/12/2006 4:34:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 marv@lancaironline.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2> =20 An interesting dynamic with stick forces.  I can't never remember whi= ch=20 is
  which, but a thicker trailing edge provides the opposite of a= =20 thinner one.
  I just can't remember if thick is more forces or=20 thinner is more forces...
  Ever looked at the Legacy's Rudder TE=20= vs.=20 it's Elevators.
 
  Alan
 
[ thicker trailing= =20 edge requires less break out force because of seperation=20
-Rob]
Alan,
 
Maybe that was the attempt to lighten aileron forces (a failure) in the= 300=20 series since the aileron trailing edge is 1/4 inch thick and squared=20 off.  Oh, that's right, it does take quite a bit of force to reach that= =20 spec'ed 120 degrees/sec roll rate at 180 KIAS (note the SIZE of the ail= eron=20 on the Legacy).  I can make a pitch change easily by merely pushin= g=20 the PTT on the stick.  Accept it, it makes you a better pilot for when=20= you=20 jump back in a spam can! =20
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 CS Prop
Slow Build 1989, Flown 1996=20
Aurora, IL (KARR)

Eschew=20 Obfuscation!
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