X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:45:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmmailgate04.web.de ([217.72.192.242] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTPS id 1039290 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:37:18 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=217.72.192.242; envelope-from=jschredl@web.de Received: by fmmailgate04.web.de (8.12.10/8.12.10/webde Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k2JMaVde030780; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:36:31 +0100 Received: from [84.152.31.246] (helo=hansdesktop) by smtp07.web.de with asmtp (WEB.DE 4.106 #94) id 1FL6Vj-00047h-00; Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:36:31 +0100 From: "Johannes Schredl" X-Original-To: X-Original-Cc: Subject: high CHT X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:36:31 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Importance: Normal X-Original-Sender: jschredl@web.de X-Sender: jschredl@web.de Hello Scott! Hello to everybody interested in my problem! Thank you very much for your comments, suggestions and advices! I try to give some more explanations and remraks to your mails: 1. Calibration of probes: use 4 pc. EGT and CHT thermocouples with the EPI800 system from Vision Micro. I checked one probe years ago with confidential results. But I agree, I have to re-check them all again to be on the save side. 2. During a normal flight I have following results (+-10°F): 2500 RPM; 23,3"Hg; OAT=72°F; at 4500ft with 185MPH Indicated Airspeed; Oil-Temp=193°F; Fuel = 7,5 gal/hour; (Temperatures converted from °C to °F) CHT EGT Cyl. 1 390°F 1400°F Cyl. 2 410°F 1436°F Cyl. 3 410°F 1418°F Cyl. 4 390°F 1382°F I have a standard IO320 Lycoming (new when installed) with standard Bendix injector, Slick magnetos and standard pistons. I notice Cyl. 2+3 have slight higher EGT and same to CHT. 3. Measuring the pressure conditions was my first attempt to get more information about this problem. I have to add I used the static pressure of the cockpit, not from the static ports. Now you tell me there might be a considerable differenc I have to repeat measurement using the exact static pressure! The reason why I used a airspeed indicator was I can compare it better: Aircraft speed v: thats the maximum of pressure I can ever get (knowing p-dynamic = 1/2 * rho * v * v) -> max ram air The "air-speed" at the upper cowling never can be higher than v! In reality less than v because the "upper cowling" is not perfect sealed and air is going down through the cylinder fins. My feeling 75% of v (100%) is a good value. Very supprising to me is a pressure of about 40% below the cylinder. My first thought was: this is much to high to have a good pressure difference between upper and lower plenum! Here is the biggest potential ot improve cooling by reducing this pressure. Reading all your mail show me that´s "normal"... By the way: the airspeed indicator (I use for "pressure-measurement") needle is vibrating about +-3knots and gives a not too bad reading. However using some kind of damping should improve this instrument 4. On the backside of my baffles I have holes for the oil cooler (as described in lancair manual) and cabin air. Both holes are about 2" diameter. Variating the hole for the oil cooler do not have a signigicant change to CHT but of course to the oil temperature (I use different cut out sizes for summer /winter time) 5. I building a pressure cowling which seals the baffles perfect. At the air inlet section I tied to have only very small gaps (about 1/8"). Right now I did not consider to have a perfect air flow design with smout ramps less than 7° angle (will be improved). Conclusion: I see the aim to get a lower CHT is not that simple (as I already know before). But when measuring a "40%-Pressure" below the cylinder I thought that´s the reason! But when the air outlet area from the lower cowling is big enoth and is acting like a venturi system there should be a much lower pressure... Maybe there are turbulences or other reasons (like Gary Casey mentioned ) for this high pressure! Will continue to work on this problem! Thanks to all Johannes