X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [72.255.27.234] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.6) with HTTP id 916153 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:56:18 -0500 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Idle power descent? To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.6 Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:56:18 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Walter Atkinson : Bob: There is a reported concern of the rapid expansion of the aluminum piston inside of a steel barrel during "shock cooling." What about shock HEATING during every takeoff where the piston would expand faster that the cylinder barrel? This is just not a problem. If shock heating and shock cooling were real issues, one would think that no jump plane, anywhere would make it to TBO. The record reflects that they frequently do. Let me relate the record of the engine in George Braly's Bonanza that had been run at 80-90% power, LOP, and had undergone what most pilots would call a shock cooling descent on almost every flight for 1000 hours, and then subsequently on to TBO. The engine was torn down at the 1000 hour mark for research purposes. He found: 1) No unusual cylinder wall scuffing at 1000 hours TIS, cross-hatching still evident, the choke still there. 2) Compressions still good. 3) Measurements showed this 1000 hour engine still within *new* limits; not *servicable* limits, but NEW limits. 4) The engine was re-assembled and is now approaching TBO. Still no cylinder problems. This is one of several engines we know to have been "shock cooled" repeatedly with no ill effects. Mine and John Deakin's, among others. (A borescope of my previous engine at 1000 hours was circulated to an number of mechanics for an evaluation of how the health of the engine looked. Most estimated the engine to have less than 150 hours on it. A few thought is was not even finished with the breakin. This engine had been operated in the same way as the one referenced above--high power, LOP, and "shock cooled" descents.) Based on these facts, observations, and measurements, we believe shock-cooling to be a myth. (As long as you're not at Red Line CHT and chopping the throttle on a daily basis. That wouldn't be contributory to good longevity.) If my memory has incorrectly reported any of the engine tear-down specifics on his engine, I trust George will correct me. Walter