Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #33730
From: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Idle power descent?
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:53:18 -0500
To: <lml>
Posted for Gary Casey <glcasey@adelphia.net>:

From
 Regarding the subject of low power descents adversely affecting the
 piston/cylinder clearance I have always found a flaw in that  argument.  The
idea proposed is that removing the heat source (going  to low power) will
cause the cylinder to contract around the piston.   However, the flow path for
the heat is from combustion INTO the  piston and then out through the skirt to
the cylinder and finally to  the surrounding air.  Seems to me if I reduce the
heat input the  first thing to cool will be the piston  and then the cylinder,
not  the other way around.  How could the piston possibly stay hot and the
 cylinder decide to cool off?  The only problem I've seen from  prolonged
low-power operation is from too much oil getting on the  plugs, causing a
fouling problem.  This is caused by a low pressure  in the cylinder,
encouraging oil to flow above the rings combined  with a lack of combustion in
the cylinder that will burn the oil.   This effect is a problem during ground
idle as well, so if you don't  like idle descents then you must really not
like idling on the  ground.  In theory, the best way to do a low power descent
is to  leave the throttle open (naturally aspirated engine) and pull the
 mixture.  The manifold pressure will remain high, reducing the volume  of oil
pulled into the cylinder and the engine will be perfectly  happy just pumping
air.  I don't have the nerve to do this as I don't  like shutting the engine
off in flight (what happens if the mixture  cable falls off, I guess), but it
would make the engine happy.   Incidentally, all modern car engine controls
shut off the fuel during  a deccel and there has been no known issues.
 
 There was also a question about "backfiring", more technically  correctly
called "after-firing":  It is commonly caused by an  intermittent very slow
combustion caused by excessively rich or lean  mixtures combined with a low
cylinder pressure.  One cylinder might  misfire, depositing a load of unburned
fuel in the exhaust system.   The metal is probably not hot enough to light
the fire, but another  cylinder might have a "slow burn", creating an open
flame in the  exhaust, lighting the unburned mixture.  It's no big deal, but
some  people don't like the noise (but we, as kids, liked it a lot).
 
 Gary Casey
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