X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:59:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net ([68.230.241.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.1) with ESMTP id 832477 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:46:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.32; envelope-from=sportform@cox.net Received: from [68.101.100.1] by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id <20051116044535.XKNF3131.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@[68.101.100.1]> for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 23:45:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v623) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: <83e83ecaaabc9783eee8f92bacac7db0@cox.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Barry Hancock Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Navigating in the IFR system in an experimental aircraft X-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 20:45:59 -0800 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.623) On Nov 15, 2005, at 6:41 PM, Ron Galbraith wrote: > Bottom line is that "experimental" means nothing to me as an air=20 > traffic controller, but LNC4 does.=A0 Hey, you might even get priority=20= > if you are a Lancair, you never know :-)=A0 Now Scott on the other=20 > hand.........maybe. > > Ron Galbraith Ron, Thanks for your responses on these matters. I, frankly, find your=20 posts more enlightening than most simply because you seldom hear from=20 the "other side of the mic" what's going on, real world, with ATC. To the point above, I've flown several experimental types and listening=20= to ATC tell somebody that they have an "experimental, 10 o'clock and 3=20= miles, west bound" is a lot less helpful, especially if there is more=20 than one target than "Yak/Lancair/L-39....blah, blah" We don't think of it this way, but there was a telling transmission=20 between a bizz jet coming out of Van Nuys and ATC when the bizz jet=20 jock said "what is that that just passed us?", speaking of the L-39 I=20 was flying. ATC responded "an experimental"....to which the jock=20 replied "Geez!" as if I had built the thing myself. In other words,=20 most of GA is clueless as to what experimental encompasses, and I'm=20 quite sure that pilot who thought of "experimental" as "from scratch=20 whacko designs that are sure to kill you" is more prevalent than we'd=20 like to admit. Bottom line is, as far as I'm concerned, even in the terminal=20 environment it's much more useful to say what type you are....YMMV. =20 Glad there's a movement to take at least one useless, dare I say =20= counterproductive, reg out of the books. Cheers, Barry 122LL