X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:38:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.1) with ESMTP id 831339 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:24:00 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.36; envelope-from=MikeEasley@aol.com Received: from MikeEasley@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id q.fb.7db026b6 (3310) for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:23:08 -0500 (EST) From: MikeEasley@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:23:07 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: What Should My CHTs and Oil Temps Be? X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1132064587" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1132064587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, You are thinking just like I am, what's different? Here we go. At first I thought it was the small baffle seal inboard of the cooler, it had flopped out and left a gaping hole. I thought for sure that was it. I posted photos and descriptions on the ES Yahoo group. That's been all sealed up with red silicone. The jump in temps occurred in the middle of an oil change, the first run with regular oil, after the break-in oil was removed. I used the Phillips Multigrade break-in oil. I am using Shell 15W-50 Multigrade oil now. Oil pressure has remained constant at around 45 in cruise. Nothing in the engine compartment or baffling has changed. I have made minor changes since the oil temp rise, but they were minor sealing of holes, trimming of baffle seals to get a better fit. Operation of the heater hasn't shown any changes either. My heat duct is on the other side. I haven't checked mag timing. Here's the only "thing" that happened at the time the temperatures jumped. I was invaded by birds nests in Huntsville. I had to leave my plane there for a week, waiting for my JPI to be repaired. I pulled out giant nests on both sides. My first thought was crud in the vanes of the oil cooler. I landed in Memphis when I saw the jump in oil temps and reinspected the cowl and the oil cooler. I blew some air through the vanes and it appeared to be fine. I inspected all the electrical and hoses for any signs of chewing, nothing. I have since shined a light through the cooler, used mirrors, you name it to check for any dirt blocking air flow through the cooler. Nothing. This has been my focus since the jump in oil temps, but I simply can't find anything to tie the birds nests to the oil temp rise. So the birds nests must be a coincidence. I'm going to change the oil this week, new filter, check the accuracy of the oil temp probe, check the operation of the vernatherm. I may contact TCM and see about getting a new oil cooler, or at least a new vernatherm. The more I think about this... the more it seems like a clogged, or partially clogged oil cooler. Almost like something is restricting the flow of oil, something that worked its way through the system at 30 hours and blocked a major portion of the cooler. Since so many ES guys, and a couple Legacy IO-550 guys have had high oil temps, it may be more about the engine than the engine installation. The search continues.... So do you consider my CHT's of 365 to 385 to be normal or ideal? Thanks for all the help Scott, Mike Easley Colorado Springs -------------------------------1132064587 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Scott,
 
You are thinking just like I am, what's different?  Here we go.
 
At first I thought it was the small baffle seal inboard of the cooler,=20= it=20 had flopped out and left a gaping hole.  I thought for sure that was=20 it.  I posted photos and descriptions on the ES Yahoo group.  That= 's=20 been all sealed up with red silicone.
 
The jump in temps occurred in the middle of an oil change, the first ru= n=20 with regular oil, after the break-in oil was removed.  I used the Phill= ips=20 Multigrade break-in oil.  I am using Shell 15W-50 Multigrade oil now.
 
Oil pressure has remained constant at around 45 in cruise.
 
Nothing in the engine compartment or baffling has changed.  I have= =20 made minor changes since the oil temp rise, but they were minor sealing of=20 holes, trimming of baffle seals to get a better fit.
 
Operation of the heater hasn't shown any changes either. My heat duct i= s on=20 the other side.
 
I haven't checked mag timing.
 
Here's the only "thing" that happened at the time the temperatures=20 jumped.  I was invaded by birds nests in Huntsville.  I had to lea= ve=20 my plane there for a week, waiting for my JPI to be repaired.  I pulled= out=20 giant nests on both sides.  My first thought was crud in the vanes of t= he=20 oil cooler.  I landed in Memphis when I saw the jump in oil temps and=20 reinspected the cowl and the oil cooler.  I blew some air through the v= anes=20 and it appeared to be fine.  I inspected all the electrical and hoses f= or=20 any signs of chewing, nothing.  I have since shined a light through the= =20 cooler, used mirrors, you name it to check for any dirt blocking air flow=20 through the cooler.  Nothing.  This has been my focus since the ju= mp=20 in oil temps, but I simply can't find anything to tie the birds nests to the= oil=20 temp rise.
 
So the birds nests must be a coincidence.
 
I'm going to change the oil this week, new filter, check the accuracy o= f=20 the oil temp probe, check the operation of the vernatherm.  I may conta= ct=20 TCM and see about getting a new oil cooler, or at least a new vernatherm.
 
The more I think about this...  the more it seems like a clogged,=20= or=20 partially clogged oil cooler.  Almost like something is restricting the= =20 flow of oil, something that worked its way through the system at 30 hours an= d=20 blocked a major portion of the cooler.  Since so many ES guys, and a co= uple=20 Legacy IO-550 guys have had high oil temps, it may be more about the engine=20= than=20 the engine installation.  The search continues....
 
So do you consider my CHT's of 365 to 385 to be normal or ideal?
 
Thanks for all the help Scott,
 
Mike Easley
Colorado Springs
 
 
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