Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:08:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([204.127.198.43] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0) with ESMTP id 815206 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:50:48 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.198.43; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from boblaptop2 (static-70-108-250-154.res.east.verizon.net[70.108.250.154]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id <20051104224958014005lqvse>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:49:58 +0000 From: "Robert R Pastusek" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LNC2 Hydraulic lines/fittings X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:46:30 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Angier Ames wrote: In the real world, when you can't get a torque wrench into a tight space to deal with hydraulic lines, what is an acceptable alternative? Install the nut hand tight and then tighten using a wrench one or two flats more? How about when installing steel hose fittings onto aluminum bulkhead fittings? --- I must admit that this is a trick I used under a large shade tree in Texas, and is definitely not approved in any aviation repair manual, but it works for me: Put the assembly you need to tighten in a vice, or if that's not possible, make up a similar assembly and use that as a demo/test rig. Tighten it with a torque wrench to the proper value, then use whatever tool you intend to use in the "real installation" to tighten it just a bit more. This will give you a feel for how much force is needed. If the wrench is short, and particularly if your're pulling at an angle less than 90 degrees to the plane of rotation, you may be surprised at how much force it takes--but while it's fresh in your memory, do the real job. I tested this process years ago to see how accurate it was, and was able to consistently reproduce the correct torque within about 5%. (As an aside, the accuracy decreased rapidly with time if I didn't apply the lesson right away. On large parts, my tendancy was to under-tighten; on small parts--particularly the common 3/16' bolts used in our aircraft, the tendancy was to overtighten-significantly after a day or two had elapsed from the practice. Hope this helps, Bob Pastusek