Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:08:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0) with ESMTP id 815248 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:42:48 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.157.37; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id q.1f6.16245fe4 (25305) for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:41:56 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1f6.16245fe4.309d4bc4@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:41:56 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: off airport landings-lnc2 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1131147716" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5009 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1131147716 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/4/2005 12:30:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, sportform@cox.net writes: I don't think there are any absolute answers here, though it does seem worth the time to consider various scenarios and what the likely outcomes would be in both gear up and gear down configurations... Let me add this tidbit for the gear up on pavement scenario. I have experienced a nice gear-up landing on a runway (I know, that's not off airport) but it is just like a paved surface - actually it was a paved surface. The advantage to this is the very short stopping distance with out high deceleration Gs. The disadvantage was the drift to the right because the giant chromed pitot way out on my left wing got a bit worn down acting as a skid and the exhaust pipes on the left side of the cowl are more slippery than the composite cowl and belly scraping along the ground. The inboard flap trailing edges were worn evenly thus the wings were not damaged since neither tip touched. Note that a gear up landing on pavement is a good short field technique, but there is no directional control. The runway was 75 feet wide, I landed on the centerline (Commercial pilot training) and ended up with my left wingtip just off the runway. I am looking for a picture of this that shows me 30 feet or so short of taking out a taxiway identifier light box. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) -------------------------------1131147716 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 11/4/2005 12:30:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 sportform@cox.net writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I don't=20 think there are any absolute answers here, though it does seem
worth t= he=20 time to consider various scenarios and what the likely
outcomes would=20= be=20 in both gear up and gear down configurations...

Let me add this tidbit for the gear up on pavement scenario. I ha= ve=20 experienced a nice gear-up landing on a runway (I know, that's not off=20 airport) but it is just like a paved surface - actually it was a p= aved=20 surface. The advantage to this is the very short stopping distance wit= h=20 out high deceleration Gs. The disadvantage was the drift to the right=20 because the giant chromed pitot way out on my left wing got a bit worn=20= down=20 acting as a skid and the exhaust pipes on the left side of the cow= l=20 are more slippery than the composite cowl and belly scraping along the=20 ground. The inboard flap trailing edges were worn evenly thus the wing= s=20 were not damaged since neither tip touched.

Note that a gear up landing on pavement is a good short field=20 technique, but there is no directional control. The runway was 75 feet= =20 wide, I landed on the centerline (Commercial pilot training) and ended=20= up=20 with my left wingtip just off the runway. I am looking for a picture o= f=20 this that shows me 30 feet or so short of taking out a taxiwa= y=20 identifier light box.

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

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