Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.1) with ESMTP id 1010210 for rob@logan.com; Sat, 05 Jan 2002 10:52:55 -0500 Received: from echo.voice.rackshack.net ([216.40.198.12]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 18:21:11 -0500 Received: from notebook (cs2416068-88.houston.rr.com [24.160.68.88]) by echo.voice.rackshack.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id g04NRqj21683; Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:27:52 -0600 Reply-To: Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "Don Parsons" To: , Subject: RE: Tank sealant Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 17:22:27 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Disposition-Notification-To: "Don Parsons" X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> ... the skin ... moved slightly and now the "squeeze bead" is not right at the edge of the rib cap, leaving a strip of thin Hysol exposed ... I could "see" through the wing along the edge of the ribs. I assume this thin layer of Hysol is an adequate fuel seal, correct? Gary, I decided to refer to the manual (for me the ES, Ch 10, Pg 3) to see what it had to say, and found that it actually gives us 3 options: 1) a thick coat of epoxy resin, 2) an extra layer of fiberglass wetted out thoroughly (better), or 3) use a fuel sealer compound designed for this purpose (best, in this case Jeffco 9700). As a result of some of these questions, I have been trying to find a definitive written source that explicitly states that Jeffco 1307LV and Hysol 9339 are both fuel safe once they have cured, but I have not found anything yet. The first 2 options listed above imply that Jeffco 1307LV is, and the procedure for closing the wing using Hysol 9339 imply that it is too. Exposing a thin strip of cured Hysol 9339 to fuel along the bond joints should not be a problem. If it was, then we all would have a problem because this happens in all ES tanks as a by-product of the process described in the manual. I believe this is also the case for IV and LNC2 tanks as well. As a side point, I noticed that the manual calls for a 1/16" to 1/8" overlap, not the 1/4" that I mentioned earlier this week just going by memory. When you say "I could 'see' through the wing along the edge of the ribs", I hope you are not describing a "void" when you say "see through". If that is the case, structural strength issues will be a much bigger problem. From the wording in the rest of your question, I suspect this is not the case. If you are worried because you do not have the overlap at all between the Hysol 9339 Adhesive and the Jeffco 9700 Sealer... given the first option the manual offers for sealing the tanks, it might be OK (assuming that there are no pin-holes or other small leaks in any of the exposed surfaces). The point of going through the sealing process is to insure that there are no leaks at all no matter how small. If the exposed surfaces are along the cap strips, I would suspect they are fine. If the exposed surfaces are on the inside wing skin prepreg surfaces, and there are any pin-holes, you may have a small amount of fuel leaking into the Nomex core. That would not be a good thing. I hope this helps... ------ Don Parsons Houston, TX DAP@Lancair-ES.com http://www.Lancair-ES.com/ ES-166-FB / N198TD (Reserved) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>