Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #32068
From: Craig Berland <cberland@systems3.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Non-Certified Aircraft
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:27:21 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Rob Wolf said:
Where Bill is wrong is where he states --
<<that jet is more than twice as fast as this Baron, much more reliable, safer, quieter, easier to maintain, easier to fly, better instrumented and burns less fuel, but it’s not certified,>>
It may be faster, quieter and more efficient, but it will not be safer.
This characteristic of the certification process dominates virtually every element of certified airplane design.  Not even the most anal homebuilder -- and believe me, the Lancair ranks have many of these folks, including myself at times -- builds their airplanes to that standard across the board.
 
Rob, I kinda agree with your comments. I am the President of Systems 3. We make over 5000 aerospace parts every week for Boeing's F18, Apache, etc.  From this background I see three things that make the "safety" issue less than straight forward.  One, for the certified aircraft, the initial design phase is very controlled and thoroughly tested.  This is where some of the kit aircraft industry is lacking.  Two, after certification, design improvements are not implemented due to a lack of trust between the government and the private sector.  This usually plays out as "to costly to fix". This can even be flight safety features. The kit industry wins big here.  Third, is the issue of build quality. This is not design quality.  This gets complicated. The certified industry is of great concern that your process certifications are in order. In twenty years, only a hand full of times has a government inspector wanted to see the dimensional characteristics of the parts we build. We have a government inspector in here twice a week looking at "flight critical" parts. If the paper work is good, the parts are good. If we were not honorable, we could be selling junk. Then the parts go to Boeing for assembly.  The guy on the line is having a bad day and the assembly is junk. After 15 years as a product engineer at General Motors, let me give this advise...Don't buy a car built during the Christmas Holidays, the assembly is likely to be junk.  In the kit industry, this is builder specific. I have great confidence that my IV-P will be assembled with greater overall quality than your typical certified aircraft. I have more at stake than the guy on the line.
 
So to boil it down, I believe that if the kit plane is well designed, then it will generally be safer than a certified aircraft.  This does not mean the pilot will fly it more safely.
Craig Berland
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