X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 19:25:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mercury.email.starband.net ([148.78.247.34] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1009549 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:51:53 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=148.78.247.34; envelope-from=hwasti@starband.net Received: from starband.net (vsat-148-64-23-255.c050.t7.mrt.starband.net [148.64.23.255]) by mercury.email.starband.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LMp0hL007389 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 18:51:03 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <42B899B0.9070201@starband.net> X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:50:24 -0700 From: "Hamid A. Wasti" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Induction air filter References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80/941/Wed Jun 15 14:13:38 2005 clamav-milter version 0.80j on mercury X-Virus-Status: Clean Walter Atkinson wrote: > There are two ways to accomplish that knowledge. Rigorous testing and > "let's see if this works." Both carry risks to the equipment. One > carries less risk to the flesh and blood. The problem with "Lets see if this works" approach is that you do not know how close you are to the edge and what little misstep (or maybe even an intentional one) is going to put you over the edge. What is worse is the envelope creep. The gross weight discussion from a few months ago is such an example. One person decided to up the max gross on the Lancair IV by 100lbs and announced that they have been flying successfully for 500 hours (maybe only 5 of those hours being spent within 100lbs of the new gross weight). The next person who learns that it has been tried and tested for 500 hours decides to up their weight by just another 100 lbs. They report successful operations for 500 hours also (no landings, no rough air operations and only a few hours at the new high weight). The cycle continues with each person building on the last person's "See I did it and I am still alive" experience till someone decides that based on existing published experience they can safely set their gross weight at 5,000lbs. Everything comes crashing down (quite literally) when that person falls out of the sky with three innocent passengers the first time they encounter moderate turbulence operating close to their gross weight and all the rest of us are left with the label of "those crazy people that think they are immune from the laws of physics" While not everyone can afford rigorous testing for everything they do, some educated analysis is mandatory. "Lets see if this works" must be backed up with some sound engineering decisions -- assuming that someone else must have done the analysis otherwise they would not have done what they did is not part of sound decisionmaking. Regards, Hamid