Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #30473
From: Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Induction air filter
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 21:34:56 -0400
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John
 
Likewise, for the bird strike, I am hoping that the bird is large enough
to lodge in the cowl inlet, or up against the valve shaft, or if it is
small enough to pass through to the servo body, small enough to allow
enough airflow to make a safe landing. Sure, there is a size range that
will defeat the system. I always avoid that size bird :o)   The real
small ones go through, and out the exhaust pipe. Then there is the guy
who was cutting toilet paper, and that clogged his intake, and he landed
dead stick (at the airport).

A screen would help some of these cases, but then there is the
possibility of the screen getting ingested because it came loose, or got
knocked loose. Some of the no-filter guys use plastic screen to mitigate
this possibility.
 
Scott
 
I have only been worried about dirt filled air on take-off.  This is a solution to that problem.  If a bird (or piece of one) can actually get into my intake it will probably be sucked right through since it would be so small - That is why it is safer to fly WOT.  I am more worried about spearing a bird with my pitot tube since it is not occasionally protected by a fan blade. 
 
 
Bill
 
Actually, a bird has pretty good odds on getting to your air intake without encountering a prop blade. The odds would be somewhere around 3 1/2 to 1 of success (although I'm sure that the bird wouldn't see it as successful) depending on your speed, rpm and the size of the bird.
 
At 180 knots, you're traveling about 18,216 feet per minute. At 2500 rpm a blade is passing by the intake at the rate of 5,000 blades per minute (for a two blade prop). That means that the airplane travels over 3 1/2 feet between blade passes. A 1 foot long bird would have better than 3 to 1 chance of getting through.
 
So what's it all mean, Mr. Natural?  Uhhh, not much. Just that you shouldn't count on your prop to mince avian airspace sharers into bite size pieces.
 
That's a nice design, John.  And good info from all of you.
 
I have the unfortunate experience of having been in the flight path of a group of small birds.  It occurred during takeoff at about 500' AGL out of Salem, Oregon.  One of them met its 'undoing' at my induction opening of the bottom cowl.  So, it did make it past the prop as Bill discussed. 
 
The flight went fine (I was not aware of the intake obstruction until landing 1 hour later).  My bird, that is, the one I sit in, has a metal screen at the front of the carburetor air box which is about an inch in from the cowl opening.  There was a bird wing and some feathers stuck in the screen.  And there was a lot of 'goo' (bird parts) to clean up around the intake opening on the bottom cowl.  The souvenir feathers are on the wall in my hanger.  I am of the opinion that the intake screen very well may have saved "my bacon".
 
I occasionally think about the possible forced landing at an off-airport location in the city (Salem airport is at the south end of the city and my heading was north) had the bird obstruction caused an engine stoppage.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2 N21SN
Medford, Oregon     
 
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