Return-Path: Received: from marvkaye.olsusa.com ([205.245.9.136]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:12:36 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990721181638.0322f830@olsusa.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:16:38 -0400 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: Marvin Kaye Subject: Elevator counterbalance X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Posted for "Ian B. Crowe" : I was the guy who asked the original question and I never got a specific answer to the question of whether to balance with the bolts in place or just on the assembly pins I used. I was hoping that there would be a stock answer to the question. I asked Orin at Neico and as far as I remember he said to balance it as I had done on the pins, paint it and then recheck it. Slightly heavy was better than light. Give him a call, he is always helpful. When you think about it, any frictional forces that that you build into the balancing process, will probably change over time resulting in an inbalance down the road. The same problem arises with the ailerons although the hinges are easier to adjust on the initial installation to approach zero friction. My ailerons were much easier to balance. I suppose that you could measure the amount of apparent out of balance with the bolts fully installed by using a good spring balance and calculating the moments. I tried my elevators out for balance indivdually with the bolts in and together with the two coupled together. In my case it was the act of bolting the two elevators together that introduced the friction. It is unrealistic to expect that using the low tech techniques available to us and given the type of materials that we could achieve an almost frictionless environment. The alignment would have to be within very high tolerances. I think that in the abscence of defined standards and given our relative lack of experience we often fall into the trap of trying to achieve perfection. Ian Crowe [Another repost because of dual formatting.... please post in plain text mode only, no HTML. Hello..... hello.......... ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html