Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 15:06:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m27.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 779992 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:33:48 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.8; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m27.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.8.) id q.1ea.3869b200 (3310) for ; Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:32:56 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1ea.3869b200.2f634c68@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:32:56 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Slick Mag Failures X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1110569576" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5000 -------------------------------1110569576 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/11/2005 9:17:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, JJHALLE@stoel.com writes: I am getting a discount on two replacement mags which I intend to use while I figure out what electronic system to go to. I intend to check them frequently, and I don't mean the run-up check that I have done before every take-off and that has always been perfect. Check out whatever Deakin article claims that runup checks are a complete waste of time, which I now put more stock in than I used to. I have no idea if the controller box is contributing anything but I intend to test that too when I get it reinstalled. And I still don't know why the engine missed only with the LASAR system on. Without it, I would presumably still be fat, dumb and happy (instead of being only two of the foregoing) flying around with two "shot" mags tbat do just fine on runup. -------, I have written before about the LASAR system and will add just a bit more. I was shocked when I added a panel switch to cut the power to LASAR controller, thus making it run on the mags. Initially I had better performance on the mags only because the LASAR switching relays (in the mag bulge in the cable) failed so that the controller and the mags were both trying to issue sparks thus making the system perform worse than mags only. Unison happily replaced the "mags." I have run my IO 320 with the LASAR O-320 controller (most aggressive timing advance), the O-360 (less aggressive) and the IO-360 (least aggressive) and I do not see much difference below 24" MAP (where advancement should begin). The benefit has been "electronic" ignition operation at engine start and for high power, low altitude flights (races). On the other hand, .018 plug gaps (so the backup mag operation can make the spark jump) somewhat defeats the better, more consistently delivered "electronic" spark. So...... I have looked at the P-Mags (complete self-powered electronic ignition) at emagair.com, but I am concerned that not enough experience exists with "peculiar" engine setups - like mine. I have finally decided to do the extra work and install twin Lightspeed electronic ignitions with a backup battery. Join me in the 2005 Air Venture Cup Race and I'll tell you how they work for me. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96 Aurora, IL (KARR) Fair and Balanced Opinions at No Charge! Metaphysical Monologues used at your own Risk. -------------------------------1110569576 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/11/2005 9:17:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 JJHALLE@stoel.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I am=20 getting a discount on two replacement mags which I intend to use while I=20 figure out what electronic system to go to.  I intend to check them=20 frequently, and I don't mean the run-up check that I have done before ever= y=20 take-off and that has always been perfect.  Check out whatever Deakin= =20 article claims that runup checks are a complete waste of time, which I now= put=20 more stock in than I used to.  I have no idea if the controller box i= s=20 contributing anything but I intend to test that too when I get it=20 reinstalled.  And I still don't know why the engine missed only with=20= the=20 LASAR system on.  Without it, I would presumably still be fat, dumb a= nd=20 happy (instead of being only two of the foregoing) flying around with two=20 "shot" mags tbat do just fine on runup.

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I have written before about the LASAR system and will add just a bit=20 more.  I was shocked when I added a panel switch to cut the power to LA= SAR=20 controller, thus making it run on the mags.  Initially I had better=20 performance on the mags only because the LASAR switching relays (in the mag=20 bulge in the cable) failed so that the controller and the mags were both try= ing=20 to issue sparks thus making the system perform worse than mags only. =20 Unison happily replaced the "mags."
 
I have run my IO 320 with the LASAR O-320 controller (most aggressive=20 timing advance), the O-360 (less aggressive) and the IO-360 (least aggressiv= e)=20 and I do not see much difference below 24" MAP (where advancement shoul= d=20 begin).  The benefit has been "electronic" ignition operation at engine= =20 start and for high power, low altitude flights (races). On the other hand, .= 018=20 plug gaps (so the backup mag operation can make the spark jump) somewha= t=20 defeats the better, more consistently delivered "electronic" spark.
 
So......
 
I have looked at the P-Mags (complete self-powered electronic ignition)= at=20 emagair.com, but I am concerned that not enough experience exists with=20 "peculiar" engine setups - like mine.
 
I have finally decided to do the extra work and install twin Lightspeed= =20 electronic ignitions with a backup battery.
 
Join me in the 2005 Air Venture Cup Race and I'll tell you how they wor= k=20 for me.=20
 
Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)

Fai= r=20 and Balanced Opinions at No Charge!
Metaphysical Monologues used at your=20= own=20 Risk.

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