Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:55:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.36.178.141] (HELO stoel.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 624816 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:25:45 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com ([172.16.103.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com with ESMTP id <334128>; Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:34:38 -0800 Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.103.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:25:09 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair Stalls X-Original-Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:25:09 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB60721980E3@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: lml Digest #1104 Thread-Index: AcUEX4jL5b/DuRShS6Sw4WbYMRVzSwAM06dg From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Return-Path: JJHALLE@stoel.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jan 2005 17:25:09.0664 (UTC) FILETIME=[26BF5A00:01C50495] I will leave alone the question of what skill it takes to build a Legacy = (noting only that you do need to be very careful and seek lots of = advice.) As far as flying one, though, the skill you need is the same = skill you need to fly any airplane and it consists of an accurate and = complete knowledge of what the flight envelope is and a conservative = attitude that enables you to stay at all times well within it. If your = total flying experience is 35.1 hrs. in C-150s and you just got your = ticket, I think you would be unsafe in a Legacy. I also think that in = far less time than it takes to build one, you could solve that problem. = Once you have that done, there is simply no reason EVER to fly a Legacy = close to the edge of the envelope. C-150s, 172s etc. were designed with the primary goal in mind of being = idiot-proof. Performance was a secondary (or non-existent) = consideration. Accordingly, you can do almost anything to them and = recover easily. Lancairs, and most other airplanes, try to balance = performance against other characteristics, including recovery from = unusual attitudes. They also do not have the level of flight testing = that is required of certified a/c and, as Brent observes, if you make it = wrong, who knows what you have? I have personally stalled the factory = Legacy and, with Don Goetz aboard, we did approaches to stalls in mine = as a part of initial testing. Since then, I have not been within 20 kts = of a stall except right after takeoff and flared for landing. Unless = you are a qualified test pilot, have extensive military combat training = experience, have thousands of hours in Lancairs or are otherwise = qualified to push airplanes right up to the edge of the envelope, don't = even think about it. You can do a very impressive show for folks on the = ground without getting anywhere near stall. I have done it the last two = years at our local airshow. It takes only a very little flying skill not to stall an airplane. = Anyone with at least that level of skill who stalls one anyway and = crashes is not being killed by the airplane!