Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:14:58 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.36.178.141] (HELO stoel.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 623248 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:35:31 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com ([172.16.103.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com with ESMTP id <334135>; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:43:42 -0800 Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.103.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:34:49 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair Stalls X-Original-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:34:49 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB60721980DF@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: lml Digest #1103 Thread-Index: AcUDln4ATT0yklVJTjKRrqDikfv4AAANNWWA From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Return-Path: JJHALLE@stoel.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jan 2005 17:34:49.0219 (UTC) FILETIME=[55C6AD30:01C503CD] I second what Carl Lewis said about the Legacy but wanted to respond = about the light stick forces/fast roll rate and IFR. I frist flew IFR = in Navy tactical jets which have comparable stick forces and roll rates = considerably faster than the Legacy. After that, for about 30 years, I = didn't fly at all or flew bonanzas etc. Because I had very little = current time, I was a barely adequate instrument pilot and only flew IMC = in benign condidtions (e.g. ceiling over 1,000). The first time I flew IMC in the Legacy, I had an instructor with me. = We entered the clouds and, within 30 seconds, I was in a 70 degree bank. = I recovered easily and, with some effort of concentration made steady = progress through the flight to the point where I was making pretty fair = approaches by the end of it. Thinking about it afterwards, I realized = that I had to relearn IMC techniques that I had learned in the military. = Among other things, trim is important. Make sure you have a trim = button on the stick that controls elevator and aileron (you hardly ever = mess with rudder trim) and keep trimming out even small pressures. = Trimmed up, the Legacy flies a more stable pattern throughout the = airspeed range than any plane I have ever flown (including a Pilatus = PC-12 which feels like a truck.) That is true both in smooth air and = light chop. Because of the trim control possiblities with a = stick-mounted system and the precise control input that is possible in = the Legacy (control pushrods rather than cables) you can fly more = accurate instruments in a Legacy than in any even remotely equivalent = certified airplane. Bottom line: if you are used to flying instrments in C-172's, you will = need to go through a transition while you get used to the more precise = control inputs. The transition should not take long, however, and, when = you get through it, you will not believe what a joy the Legacy is as an = instrument platform (as it is in every other respect.) I join with Carl = in urging you to go to Redmond and try it out. You won't believe it and = the speed is just the beginning.