Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:03:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from lora.pns.networktel.net ([216.83.236.238] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP-TLS id 622896 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 09:29:59 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.83.236.238; envelope-from=walter@advancedpilot.com Received: from [10.0.1.3] (216-107-97-170.wan.networktel.net [216.107.97.170]) by lora.pns.networktel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0QEVHqK003273 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:31:23 GMT (envelope-from walter@advancedpilot.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--406458010 X-Original-Message-Id: From: Walter Atkinson Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Plugs and Mags for IVP X-Original-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:29:20 -0600 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.6; VAE 6.29.0.5; VDF 6.29.0.52 --Apple-Mail-1--406458010 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yes, a hotter, more intense spark will aid in getting the flame front=20 started. This is *helpful* when LOP but has little effect ROP. Once=20 started the flame front is no longer influenced by the spark intensity.=20= The flame front speed is unaffected by the spark intensity. Walter On Jan 25, 2005, at 10:07 PM, Douglas W. Johnson, MD wrote: I certainly bow to greater authority on this.=A0 Although I suspected = OAT=20 diff might have accounted for this, I talked to a Unison insider who=20 suggested something about better flame propagation with thier Iridium=20 plugs, and therefore more efficient burn of fuel in the cylinder.=A0=20 Would have suspected this would have raised the CHT's, however, if that=20= were the case.... Doug -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of=20 Walter Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:06 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: Plugs and Mags for IVP Doug: **Of interest, within the limits of my setup (VM1000, all altitude and=20= engine parameters the same with the exception of a 15degF cooler OAT) I=20= did notice a 20-30degF cooler CHT with the new Iridium plugs over a=20 broad range of fuel flows, and a 2-3 knot improved speed at=20 lean-of-peak operations (no change at ROP operations).** I know of no scientific reason that the type of plug making the spark=20 could make such differences. It's more likely the OAT. More O2=20 molecules for combustion and better air cooling. The improved LOP speed=20= is O2 increases in the cooler air. It allows for more FF at a given LOP=20= setting. If you were to set the same FF, the HP output and TAS would be=20= the same. We must be careful to assign the correct cause for an=20 observed change. Walter --Apple-Mail-1--406458010 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, a hotter, more intense spark will aid in getting the flame front started. This is *helpful* when LOP but has little effect ROP. Once started the flame front is no longer influenced by the spark intensity. The flame front speed is unaffected by the spark intensity. Walter On Jan 25, 2005, at 10:07 PM, Douglas W. Johnson, MD wrote: = Arial0000,0000,FFFFI certainly bow to greater authority on this.=A0 Although I suspected OAT diff might have accounted for this, I talked to a Unison insider who suggested something about better flame propagation with thier Iridium plugs, and therefore more efficient burn of fuel in the cylinder.=A0 Would have suspected this would have raised the CHT's, however, if that were the case.... = Arial0000,0000,FFFFDoug -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Walter = Atkinson Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:06 AM To: Lancair Mailing = List Subject: [LML] Re: Plugs and Mags for IVP Doug: **Of interest, within the limits of my setup (VM1000, all altitude and engine parameters the same with the exception of a 15degF cooler OAT) I did notice a 20-30degF cooler CHT with the new Iridium plugs over a broad range of fuel flows, and a 2-3 knot improved speed at lean-of-peak operations (no change at ROP operations).** I know of no scientific reason that the type of plug making the spark could make such differences. It's more likely the OAT. More O2 molecules for combustion and better air cooling. The improved LOP speed is O2 increases in the cooler air. It allows for more FF at a given LOP setting. If you were to set the same FF, the HP output and TAS would be the same. We must be careful to assign the correct cause for an observed change. Walter --Apple-Mail-1--406458010--