Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #27869
From: Mark Ravinski <mjrav@comcast.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re. Lancair Stalls
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:04:16 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
It's becoming increasingly obvious that the different Lancair models cannot be grouped together for purposes of this discussion as the subject "Lancair Stalls" suggests.  As Roberto has shown, even individual planes can be unique.
  I cannot comment on other than my LNC2, small tail 360, 1990 vintage.
As I fly slow flight into a stall regime,  the plane handles beautifully with lots of stall warning, buffet and shaking and the stick turns progressively to mush. 
As I provoke it further into a deep stall, a wing will drop and it can be either wing.  It may go to 90 deg of bank or more - very quickly - and may start to spin.  If I try to control the plane with any use of rudder, it will immediately spin in the direction of the rudder.  I cannot keep the plane from spinning by fighting it with rudder,  - when opposite rudder is used the plane reverses spin direction.  I have never let it spin more than a half turn or so.
Recovery is immediate when the stall is broken and rudder opposite any spin HOWEVER this may be from some inverted angle.
I don't know if it would recover from a developed spin and don't need to know.
  My background as a T-37 flight instructor was heavy with stall / spin / unusual attitude training.  The sort of spin training you can get from most flight schools today in a stable, low performance aircraft will not prepare you for this in a LNC2.
  A common accident scenario is the high speed pass followed by a steep climb, stall and spin.  If flown all the way to a vertical stall, I find the resultant stall is very deep and does require some time, altitude and finesse
for a recovery.  Again, not experience that can be had in most spam cans.
  Others on this list have recommended various methods of higher performance training like aerobatics and dogfighting schools.  I wholeheartedly agree.
  Write to me off list if you can't find what you need and want to fly with me.
I'll help anyone I can.
 
  Once again, my LNC2 has shown reliable stall / spin avoidance and recovery capabilities but "results may differ".
 
Mark Ravinski
N360KB  1310 hrs
 
 
 
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