Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from pop-a065d10.pas.sa.earthlink.net ([207.217.121.251] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 621907 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:01:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.217.121.251; envelope-from=petervana@earthlink.net Received: from fl-69-68-24-207.dyn.sprint-hsd.net ([69.68.24.207] helo=Peter) by pop-a065d10.pas.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 1CtZg4-0004QQ-00 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 25 Jan 2005 15:00:53 -0800 From: "Peter Van Arsdale" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: Lancair Stalls X-Original-Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 18:00:40 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <00d501c50331$b1349020$6502a8c0@Peter> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C50307.C85E8820" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C50307.C85E8820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable About every 6 months a discussion on Lancair stall characteristics comes = to the list with the thrust of much of the analysis being how to better understand these characteristics and what to do about them. It often germinates from the report of a fatal stall/spin accident. The analysis = is good, but from these mishaps I think the best advice Lancair flyers = could heed would be to avoid stalls/spins under any circumstances. In the = late '60's, when I started flying large twins and planes over 12,500 lbs., we never did stalls. An approach to the stall and most often a recovery = before a buffet was the drill. We then flew the planes as airliners, by the numbers and conservatively. Rule #1 was to keep the plane flying until = it contacted the ground, whether on a runway or not, and that's still the = case for me. =20 Lancairs are not forgiving airplanes and it's unlikely they ever will = be. Couple that with the existence of low experience and/or capabilities, we wind up having to many tragic losses. =20 If someone has a need to do radical maneuvers or aerobatics buy a Pitts. =20 Peter Van Arsdale Naples, FL (239) 253-8246 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01C50307.C85E8820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
About = every 6 months=20 a discussion on Lancair stall characteristics comes to the list = with the=20 thrust of much of the analysis being how to better understand these=20 characteristics and what to do about them.  It often germinates = from the=20 report of a fatal stall/spin accident.  The analysis is good, = but from=20 these mishaps I think the best advice Lancair flyers could heed = would be to=20 avoid stalls/spins under any circumstances.  In the late '60's, = when I=20 started flying large twins and planes over 12,500 lbs., we never did=20 stalls.  An approach to the stall and most often a recovery before=20 a buffet was the drill.  We then flew the planes as airliners, = by the=20 numbers and conservatively.  Rule #1 was to keep the plane flying = until it=20 contacted the ground, whether on a runway or not, and that's still the = case for=20 me.
 
Lancairs are not=20 forgiving airplanes and it's unlikely they ever will be.  Couple = that with=20 the existence of low experience and/or capabilities, we wind up = having to=20 many tragic losses.
 
If = someone has a=20 need to do radical maneuvers or aerobatics buy a = Pitts.
 
Peter Van = Arsdale
Naples, FL
(239) = 253-8246
 
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