Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.1) with ESMTP id 1000186 for rob@logan.com; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 22:13:04 -0500 Received: from m3.boston.juno.com ([64.136.24.66]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:59:39 -0500 Received: from cookie.juno.com by cookie.juno.com for <"7LRIubhLn1VLcKB8GrXnbRmJuVgqJzshB7KKMSBR4LoOT/UW7J1HJj0NXn7P4Gce"> Received: (from earl_schroeder@juno.com) by m3.boston.juno.com (jqueuemail) id GP2CLPDN; Mon, 31 Dec 2001 19:00:18 EST To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 17:53:58 -0600 Subject: Re: LNC2 Fuel Level Sensors Message-ID: <20011231.175359.-16455825.2.Earl_Schroeder@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: earl_schroeder@juno.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Another idea for 'capacitive probe sensors': I used the Jim Weir copper tapes to create a 'capacitor' in the wing tanks and header tank. Acutally I built three for each wing (with one at bl50, another in the center and the third on the outboard rib) and placed a single one in the header on the center baffle. I use 'surplus' industrial electronics to convert the capacitance to milli amps which drives the readout device. The three probes in the wings are wired in parallel and provides a near linear indication from full to empty. The 1/2" wide tapes placed about 1/4" apart (and glassed in that vertical position) do not provide enough signal change in my case although I have a useable system with 40 hours of good experience. I would use 1" wide tapes placed 1/8" apart the next time. Mount the tapes on a piece of 1/8" thick foam, glass, and rout out the foam to allow the gas to flow up an down between the tapes. I soldered the lead wires onto the copper foil and then glassed over to seal everything. The final bit of 'experimenting' was to leave the lowest 1/4" of the tapes bare so if any water touched them, it would drive the output to the max. The dielectric constant of water is 80 and gas around two (if my memory isn't failing me). I believe Jim Weir also has a simple capacitance sensing device that might be useful to read the 'probes' and convert it to a readout. He described it at Oshkosh last year or the year before. Hope y'all have a Good New Year! Earl > Pat Redig, A lot of LNC2 builders have installed capacitive probe > sensors in their wings and header tanks, including myself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>