Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 10:33:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta9.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.199] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 527593 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:34:22 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.199; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from worldwinds ([68.66.216.106]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20041111143346.BDVX14438.mta9.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:33:46 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Re: Halon fire extinguishers X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 06:22:56 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal <> There are really 2 main factors in the "hazard" associated with oil and gasoline. One is the ignition temperature, where gasoline has a higher ignition temperature than jet fuel, diesel fuel and lube oil, which are all about the same. However, ignition temperature is a complex phenomena and is a function of time, pressure, temperature and mixture. The high ignition temperature of gasoline is related to the octane number and that's why gasoline works to resist detonation in a spark-ignition homogenous-charge engine. The other factor is the so-called "flash point" and that is roughly the temperature at which enough of the liquid evaporates from a pool so that it can be ignited by an open flame. Gasoline has a very low flash point and, depending on the vapor pressure, is probably in the -20 to +20F range. The flash point of the other oils is more like 100 to 300F, Jet A being the lowest and lube oil being the highest. The result of all this is that you can spray gasoline on the red-hot exhaust pipe of a running engine and it probably won't ignite. Do the same with engine oil and it will certainly start on fire. However, you can crash an airplane, dumping oil all over it with something sparking and it won't burn. Have spilled fuel anywhere around and it will burn. I remember reading that most race car fires are started by oil, not the fuel and I think it would be very wise to make sure that none of the oil lines in the engine compartment could leak in a way that oil would impinge on the exhaust system. Which is more dangerous, gasoline or jet fuel? It depends. Gary Casey