Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 01:06:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m18.mx.aol.com ([64.12.138.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.4) with ESMTP id 458911 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 16:59:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.138.208; envelope-from=Tubamanflies@aol.com Received: from Tubamanflies@aol.com by imo-m18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r3.7.) id q.2b.63321edc (4312) for ; Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:59:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Tubamanflies@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <2b.63321edc.2e99ab22@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:59:14 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Grove brakes for 235 X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_2b.63321edc.2e99ab22_boundary" X-Mailer: 8.0 for Windows sub 6811 --part1_2b.63321edc.2e99ab22_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bob, I am sorry to hear that you could not get the Grove brakes to fit on your 235. I am sure you talked to Robbie Grove to see if there was a solution. My installation which was on a 360 with the "Outback" gear (5.00 X 5 tires) was a bolt on swap. They make a great difference. I did go out and took a few measurements for you to compare with your bird. With the 5.00 tires and the Grove axle the tire sticks out farther, about 3/16" , than the axle. In addition the wheel will still spin retracted so I suspect there is about a 1/4" of clearence between the tire and the inner wing skin. I measured the space between the inner skins where the tire passes through the lower skin. The foward dimention is 6 3/4" and the Aft dimention is 5 1/4", The Outback gear has a bulge to accomidate the gear so the problem you had with the brake is not an issue. I would be interested in comments from other 235 owners who have put on the Grove brakes. Hope the comments help. Ray Gardner LNC2 MKII with Outback Gear N107SD In a message dated 10/7/04 10:53:48 PM Central Daylight Time, rbelshe@comcast.net writes: > > I received a set of Grove brakes for my 235 last week. I found that they > were about 3/8" wider measured from outside of caliper to axle tip than the > Matco brakes. > > On my 235, the wheel would not retract all the way into the well before the > axle hit the underside of the top wing skin. I considered modifying the > axle, but this would have moved the caliper into the space occupied by the > outer gear door. So reluctantly, I returned them to Grove. > > It appears that the wheel well area of the 320 wing is somewhat deeper than > in my 235. > > Bob Belshe > L235/320 > --part1_2b.63321edc.2e99ab22_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bob,

I am sorry to hear that you could not get the Grove brakes to fit on your 23= 5. I am sure you talked to Robbie Grove to see if there was a solution. = ; My installation which was on a 360 with the "Outback" gear (5.00 X 5 tires= ) was a bolt on swap.  They make a great difference.

I did go out and took a few measurements for you to compare with your bird.&= nbsp; With the 5.00 tires and the Grove axle the tire sticks out farther, ab= out 3/16" , than the axle.  In addition the wheel will still spin retra= cted so I suspect there is about a 1/4" of clearence between the tire and th= e inner wing skin.  I measured the space between the inner skins where=20= the tire passes through the lower skin.  The foward dimention is 6 3/4"= and the Aft dimention is 5 1/4",  The Outback gear has a bulge to acco= midate the gear so the problem you had with the brake is not an issue. =

I would be interested in comments from other 235 owners who have put on the=20= Grove brakes.

Hope the comments help.

Ray Gardner
LNC2 MKII with Outback Gear
N107SD

In a message dated 10/7/04 10:53:48 PM Central Daylight Time, rbelshe@comcas= t.net writes:


I received a set of Grove brakes for my 235 last week.  I found that th= ey
were about 3/8" wider measured from outside of caliper to axle tip than the<= BR> Matco brakes. 

On my 235, the wheel would not retract all the way into the well before the<= BR> axle hit the underside of the top wing skin.   I considered modify= ing the
axle, but this would have moved the caliper into the space occupied by the outer gear door.  So reluctantly, I returned them to Grove.

It appears that the wheel well area of the 320 wing is somewhat deeper than<= BR> in my 235. 

Bob Belshe
L235/320


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