Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:41:11 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta10.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.3) with ESMTP id 437865 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:30:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.202; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from worldwinds ([68.66.216.106]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040930122949.RBKO9204.mta10.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:29:49 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Re: [LML] Legacy missing wing panel X-Original-Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 05:23:09 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 <<...did somebody just oil the air grinder prior to grinding? Another thing that can happen with dense layups like the glass prepregs we use. A dull grinder disk can burnish the edge of the area being abraded making it less likely to adhere....Dan>> Some related observations I have made: I found the air sander difficult to use, although that's what I was instructed to use at the factory when closing my ES wings (Feb. 01 - does that make me the first?). My conclusion was that the high speed of the sander heated the laminate and, as Dan said, tended to burnish instead of cut. Manually sanding at a low speed but high force seemed to be much better. I also found out that the air sander would occasionally spit water eventhough I had a filter and trap in the line. Now I do everything by hand. Also, a dull paper doesn't do nearly as good a job at opening up the surface prior to bonding. Another observation - If Jeffco layups are applied one after the other the first layup can be partially cured and the second will adhere just fine. But if the layup is starting to kick and it is placed over dry laminate it won't. All this make sense? Gary Casey