Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #24717
From: DJ Molny <djmolny@yahoo.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Prop pitch with engine failure
Date: Sat, 07 Aug 2004 00:32:38 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
There are at least other ways to force the prop to coarse pitch in the event of oil pressure loss: counterweights and a pressure accumulator.  And the accumulator is obviously time-limited; once the pressure is used up the prop would return to fine pitch.  Hartzell used an accumulator with their early 'Claw' model props, but changed to counterweights after some overspeed incidents.
 
That said, your basic point is correct: any additional mechanism to put the blades into coarse pitch results in extra weight.
 
-- DJ
 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ted Noel
Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 19:15
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Prop pitch with engine failure

I spent some time with Harry Griswold of AeroComposites at Lakeland this year discussing prop pitch with engine failure. It turns out that the answer may not have to do with philosophy of handling emergencies but with mechanical complexity (cost) and weight.
 
If you spin a prop without a governor, the mechanical forces will drive it to flat pitch. That means that there must be a force applied to drive the prop back to coarse pitch. This is typically done by using oil pressure to drive pistons that move the prop. Of course, when the engine stops, the oil pressure goes away, and the prop spins to flat pitch if it is windmilling.
 
The only way to reverse this behavior is to have a massive spring in the hub to force the prop to coarse pitch at engine out. Then the pistons use engine oil to drive the prop to fine pitch. This spring increases complexity (cost) and weight.
 
Ted Noel
L-IV-P Eagle
at airport, starting ground checks
N540TF
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