Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:06:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.198.35] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 355170 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 06 Aug 2004 16:00:13 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.198.35; envelope-from=ed.mccauley@bltinc.com Received: from zd7000 (pcp05315964pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.81.68.77]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <20040806195943013004p9t7e>; Fri, 6 Aug 2004 19:59:43 +0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 15:59:37 -0400 From: Ed McCauley Subject: re: [LML] Re: Shannon Knoepflein's Legacy Accident X-Original-To: LML X-Original-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Bottom Line Technologies Inc. X-Mailer: GoldMine [6.00.30503] Content-Type: text/html
My condolences too.  "Died while he was living... wasn't dead while he was alive" Jimmy Buffet
 
I doubt that my '172 experience translates 100% to slippery glass ships but, I've found the plane drops TWICE as fast with a true dead engine compared to when it's at idle.  I've had this experience more than once. (Statistically I'm golden!)  In fact, after the first time, I was really pissed at all my instructors who "taught" me based on an idling engine. 
 
So, in addition to all the other valuable points presented and IMHO, don't practice idling to a landing point and expect the same performance during a true engine out.  Go STRAIGHT for the runway, COMMAND everyone to get out of your way, and once you have it GUARANTEED, S-turn or whatever to bleed energy.  As you all probably know, fatality rate is tied to impact velocity and angle.  Fly to the runway (get the angle flat) then worry about bleeding your energy.  I'd rather go off the end of a runway (or other clear area) at 40KTS after breaking throughout a rollout than plant it vertically somewhere short.
 
One other thought which I hope will spawn further input, I've been told by many that, given the altitude, one should consider pulling up and stopping the prop.  Again, I've been told that the flat plate drag drops dramatically.  Anyone have any hard info on this? 
 
Ed McCauley
IV-P 20% on-hold