Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:46:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from m03.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b4) with SMTP id 120643 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:45:17 -0400 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: 7LRIubhLn1VLcKB8GrXnbRmJuVgqJzshPeiqdVAgy+ez3NKu5flghJ51YJF0WZha Received: (from earl_schroeder@juno.com) by m03.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id JW5K5HDF; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 07:44:02 PDT X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 09:43:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [LML] IV's and IV-P's -- unsafe at any speed? X-Original-Message-ID: <20040602.094332.2384.15.Earl_Schroeder@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=--__JNP_000_4f92.5e98.5174 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 7-6,7-8,10,17-18,23-29,30-32767 From: earl_schroeder@juno.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_4f92.5e98.5174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:33:07 -0400 "Jim Cameron" writes: > Don't know if anyone's really compiling the statistics, but I'm wondering if there has ever been a plane with as bad a safety record as >the IV-series Lancairs. If this were a certificated or commercial airplane, the hue and cry would have grounded the whole fleet long ago. >It seems to me that, based on the number of total airframe losses and the number of associated fatalities, this design ought to be put on >the shelf for good. I would not go to this extreme [grounding fleet] but it appears that something is amiss. Perhaps that the LML list is the gathering point for all Lancair accidents causes us to think the accident rate is unusually high. I hope this is the case but the difficultly in obtaining insurance for Lancairs probably indicates there is a 'real' problem... My heart goes out to the survivors. Earl E Schroeder Cessna N3595J Lancair N233EE 5436 St Phillips Rd S Evansville, IN 47712 812 985-3372 ----__JNP_000_4f92.5e98.5174 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:33:07 -0400 "Jim Cameron" <toucan@78055.com> writes:

> Don't know if = anyone's=20 really compiling the statistics, but I'm wondering if there has ever been= a=20 plane with as bad a safety record as >the IV-series Lancairs. If= this=20 were a certificated or commercial airplane, the hue and cry would have=20 grounded the whole fleet long ago. >It seems to me that, based = on the=20 number of total airframe losses and the number of associated fatalities,&= nbsp;=20 this design ought to be put on >the shelf for good.

I would not go to this extreme [grounding fleet] but it appears that= =20 something is amiss. Perhaps that the LML list is the gathering= =20 point for all Lancair accidents causes us to think the accident rate is=20 unusually high. I hope this is the case but the difficultly in = obtaining=20 insurance for Lancairs probably indicates there is a 'real' problem...

My heart goes out to the survivors.

Earl E Schroeder Cessna N3595J Lancair N233EE
5436 St = Phillips Rd=20 S
Evansville, IN 47712
812 985-3372

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