Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:32:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 99853 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 01 Jun 2004 18:24:41 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r2.6.) id q.1d7.22ad2a80 (14374) for ; Tue, 1 Jun 2004 18:24:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1d7.22ad2a80.2dee5c07@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 18:24:07 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Hartzell propellors X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1086128647" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 910 -------------------------------1086128647 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/1/2004 3:28:28 PM Central Standard Time, ian.crowe@sympatico.ca writes: Can anyone shed some personal light on this and tell me what you did when the prop was damaged for whatever reason? Did you get replacement blades? Did you have to replace the hub? Does anyone have any bright ideas as to a substitute prop which might cost less? Ian, Don't feel bad, My experiences are as follows: Strike 1 : Hub 1, Blade 1 and 2. Towbar cleared away upon landing, 1/2 inch x 2 inch curl out of one blade, Replace blade only. Strike 2: Hub 1, Blade 2 and 3. "Heavy Nose" experimental landing, bent nose wheel fork and curled both blade tips, Replace entire propeller and check engine. Strike 3: Hub 2, Blade 4 and 5. Taxiway shortcut, removed one runway end light and took a semi-hole chunk out of one blade, Replace blade only. Strike 4: Hub 2, Blade 5 and 6. Wheel-less sled like landing shortly after peculiar "ticking" sound, Replace blades only and finally replace crankshaft. Waiting for strike 5 on Hub 2 and Blades 7 and 8. I now utilize "in motion" insurance to stop these events from happening to me. "Not in motion" insurance has surely protected me from hangar collapse, tornadoes, hail damage, floods etc. Oh ye that venture from the hearth into the aeronautical fray, must eventually pay for no landing checklist, no AOA chanting "Pssst" as fuselage caresses the earth. Scott Krueger AKA Grayhawk Sky2high@aol.com II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) LML, where ideas collide and you decide! -------------------------------1086128647 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 6/1/2004 3:28:28 PM Central Standard Time,=20 ian.crowe@sympatico.ca writes:

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Can anyone shed some personal light on th= is and=20 tell me what you did when the prop was damaged for whatever reason? =20= Did=20 you get replacement blades? Did you have to replace the=20 hub?

Does anyone have any bright ideas as to a= =20 substitute prop which might cost less?

Ian,

Don't feel bad, My experiences are as follows:

Strike 1 : Hub 1, Blade 1 and 2. Towbar cleared away upon landing= ,=20 1/2 inch x 2 inch curl out of one blade, Replace blade only.

Strike 2: Hub 1, Blade 2 and 3. "Heavy Nose" experimental=20 landing, bent nose wheel fork and curled both blade tips, Replace entire=20 propeller and check engine.

Strike 3: Hub 2, Blade 4 and 5. Taxiway shortcut, removed one run= way=20 end light and took a semi-hole chunk out of one blade, Replace blade only.

Strike 4: Hub 2, Blade 5 and 6. Wheel-less sled like landing shor= tly=20 after peculiar "ticking" sound, Replace blades only and finally replace=20 crankshaft.

Waiting for strike 5 on Hub 2 and Blades 7 and 8. I now utilize "= in=20 motion" insurance to stop these events from happening to me. "Not in=20 motion" insurance has surely protected me from hangar collapse, tornadoes, h= ail=20 damage, floods etc.

Oh ye that venture from the hearth

into the aeronautical fray,

must eventually pay

for no landing checklist,

no AOA chanting "Pssst"

as fuselage caresses the earth.=20

Scott Krueger=20 AKA Grayhawk
Sky2high@aol.com
II-P N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL=20 (KARR)

LML, where ideas collide and you=20 decide!

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