Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.1) with ESMTP id 999839 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:09:59 -0500 Received: from smtp.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.3]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:08:17 -0500 Received: from ws-01.olsusa.com ([205.245.9.203]) by smtp.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:07:22 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011230130836.0255cac0@pop3.olsusa.com> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2001 13:09:15 -0500 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: Marvin Kaye Subject: Garmin vs UPS Moving Map Stacks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Posted for "Douglas L. Dodson, Jr." : What turned me to the UPS stack is the terrain database. Garmin has no such thing. While not of any "legal" benefit, the terrain database would be a real boon to night VFR in the mountainous and sometimes very dark SW U.S. It could be a life-saver in a situation where MEAs are high due to reception requirements and ice was forming on the airframe such that altitude could no longer be maintained. Steer between what is typically widely spaced peaks to get to warmer air and land in scud-run mode. That did happen to me once, I keep thinking about how the terrain data would be better than blind luck. Doug Dodson Glasair II-S FT Flight Test Engineer, CFI-A,G IFR Stack Comparison UPS System (SL15M, MX20 w/ ChartView, GX60, SL30, SL70) Stack Height = 11", Cost ~25K. PLUS's - Lovely VFR & IFR en route charts on MX20. Jepp Approach Plates with the ChartView option. MINUS's - Relay switching means more wiring. Three different NAV/COM boxes to operate GX60 GPSCom has ONLY GPS approaches. MX20 with ChartView ($2.5K option + data base updates) provides all approaches via using GPS to position plane on a displayed Jepp approach plate. Even with ChartView, you still need paper approach plates in plane to be legal. Data Base Costs GX60 - $595/year, 28-day updates MX20 - $238/year, 6 mos updates ChartView - $950/year, 14-day updates GARMIN System (GMA340, GNS530 (or 430), UPS SL30, GTX 327*) Stack Height = 10", Cost ~$25K. PLUS's - Relatively easy to wire, digital switching. GNS 530/430 has all approaches. *New GTX 330 xpdr can display traffic on the GNS 530/430 navigators in terminal radar environments (add $3K to price) MINUS's - No VFR or IFR charts Data Base Costs GNS530 or 430 - $595/year, 28-day updates If you want two GNS navigators, some users suggest using previous (outdated) data base for second unit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>