Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 21:25:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with ESMTP id 2629282 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 08 Oct 2003 20:14:27 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.6b.1a763c5a (4254) for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:14:21 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <6b.1a763c5a.2cb6025c@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:14:20 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IFR training in a IV-P? X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1065658460" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 1110 -------------------------------1065658460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SNIP>>if possible, get the instrument training in the plane that you are going to fly. it only makes practical sense. I think that if you have a IV-P you should get your rating and experience in the IV-P. It just doesn't make any, non monetary, since to me why, if you fly a IV-P, you would want to get a rating and experience in anything else. I would definitely do the IFR training in the plane you are going to fly. I don't see the point on saving some money doing it in a spam can, which behaves nothing like the 4-P (the spammer is much more forgiving as I am sure that you You need to get used to the speeds and power settings of the plane you are flying.>> SNIP I had to roll up my pants legs after reading the latest posts. C'mon guys -- are you speaking from experience or just bullshittin' the crowd? How many of you got an instrument rating in anything bigger or faster than a C172 (military crowd excepted)? How many of you have actually taught instruments lately? Will the real CFI(I)'s please stand up? Learning to fly instruments is challenging enough for anyone. It probably the most difficult rating to get. In my limited experience as a Designated Pilot Examiner-- it is also the one with the highest failure rate. Learning to fly instruments is not going to be facilitated by doing the training in a LIVP. Could you do it? Probably-- but it ain't going to be pretty. Jeff Edwards CFI(I) DPE MEI -------------------------------1065658460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

SNIP>>if possible, get the instrument training in the plane that=20= you are going to fly. it only makes practical sense.

I think that if you have a IV-P you should get your rating and
expe= rience in the IV-P. It just doesn't make any, non monetary, since
to me=20= why, if you fly a IV-P, you would want to get a rating and
experience in= anything else.

I would definitely do the IFR training in the plane you are going= to fly. I
don't see the point on saving some money doing it in a=20= spam can, which behaves
nothing like the 4-P (the spammer is much more f= orgiving as I am sure that you

You need to get used to the speed= s and power settings of the plane you
are flying.>> SNIP

I had to roll up my pants legs after reading the latest posts. C'mon gu= ys -- are you speaking from experience or just bullshittin' the crowd? = How many of you got an instrument rating in anything bigger or faster than a= C172 (military crowd excepted)? How many of you have actually taught i= nstruments lately? Will the real CFI(I)'s please stand up? Learning to=20= fly instruments is challenging enough for anyone. It probably the most diffi= cult rating to get. In my limited experience as a Designated Pilot Examiner-= - it is also the one with the highest failure rate. Learning to fly instrume= nts is not going to be facilitated by doing the training in a LIVP. Could yo= u do it? Probably-- but it ain't going to be pretty.

Jeff Edwards

CFI(I)

DPE

MEI

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