Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2003 17:50:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [66.126.157.183] (HELO D2A) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.5) with SMTP id 2624794 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 08:17:20 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <000601c38b3a$9b87d400$0f02a8c0@D2A> From: "Kirk Hammersmith" X-Original-To: Subject: Prop on the Super ES X-Original-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 05:17:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C38AFF.EECEF520" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 Disposition-Notification-To: "Kirk Hammersmith" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C38AFF.EECEF520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>Could you elaborate on what you mean by saying the MT performed best? I will refer you to Tim Ong at Lancair to get the performance numbers. = Generally, the MT w/ simitar blades had the best take-off performance, = climb-performance and the same cruise speeds as the Hartzell. The ACI = wouldn't develop full RPM until after liftoff, even after adjustments = were made. I won't try to remember what the numbers were and give you = inaccurate info. Please contact Tim. >>Any insights into how much more maintenance the MT requires would be = helpful. I'm referring to nicks and blade maintenance. MT's composite blades = don't hold up as well as Hartzell's aluminum after you put some time on = it. >>I confess to having been scared away from the Hartzell because of = reports on this list about the nose-heaviness of the Super ES. I guess = I'm wondering how likely it is that putting 28lbs worth of batteries on = the bulkhead >>behind the baggage compartment will be enough to overcome = the nose-heaviness that has been reported. In your experience with the = factory Super ES, was there a CG issue when Hartzell was on the nose? = If so, what >>was done about it? I thought the same thing. I initially planned for a TSIO-550 in my ES, = but have since decided on an IO-550 w/ some treatment from Lycon. I've = flown an ES w/ the TSIO up front and all the "stuff" in back - it was a = wonderful flyer. Ed Rosiak in CA has this setup. The TSIO-550 install = had a 4-blade MT on it. I've also flown some hours on an ES w/ an = IO-550 and Hartzell on the front. It felt nose heavier than Lancair's = ES (MT on the front) but not a huge difference.=20 Kirk Hammersmith ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C38AFF.EECEF520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

>>Could you elaborate on what you = mean by=20 saying the MT performed best?

I will refer you to Tim Ong at Lancair = to get the=20 performance numbers. Generally, the MT w/ simitar blades = had the=20 best take-off performance, climb-performance and the same cruise = speeds as=20 the Hartzell. The ACI wouldn't develop full RPM until after = liftoff, even=20 after adjustments were made. I won't try to remember what the = numbers were=20 and give you inaccurate info. Please contact Tim.

>>Any insights into = how much=20 more maintenance the MT requires would be helpful.

I'm referring to nicks and blade maintenance. MT's composite = blades=20 don't hold up as well as Hartzell's aluminum after you put some time on=20 it.

>>I confess to having = been scared=20 away from the Hartzell because of reports on this list about the = nose-heaviness=20 of the Super ES. I guess I'm wondering how likely it is that = putting=20 28lbs worth of batteries on the bulkhead >>behind the baggage = compartment=20 will be enough to overcome the nose-heaviness that has been = reported. In=20 your experience with the factory Super ES, was there a CG issue when = Hartzell=20 was on the nose? If so, what >>was done about = it?

I thought the same thing. I = initially=20 planned for a TSIO-550 in my ES, but have since decided on an IO-550 w/ = some=20 treatment from Lycon. I've flown an ES w/ the TSIO up front and = all the=20 "stuff" in back - it was a wonderful flyer. Ed Rosiak in CA has = this=20 setup. The TSIO-550 install had a 4-blade MT on it. I've = also flown=20 some hours on an ES w/ an IO-550 and Hartzell on the front. It = felt nose=20 heavier than Lancair's ES (MT on the front) but not a huge=20 difference.

Kirk Hammersmith

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