Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:03:32 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.4) with ESMTP id 2609292 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:30:59 -0400 Received: from RWolf99@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.164.263314b9 (4410) for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: RWolf99@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <164.263314b9.2cab0994@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 12:30:12 EDT Subject: Fistful of Knots X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 108 Scott's results are interesting and readily explainable. <> A good baseline << and then the weight is transferred to the FS 84 Location. The auto pilot=20 requests trim assist and the Reichel trim wheel is rotated forward (nose dow= n)=20 about 1/6th of a turn. 176 IAS, 197 TAS AOA=3D 2.2* to 2.4*, L=3D0* to -.2*= .>> The tail needs to provide less down force to keep the airplane level. The=20 wing needs to generate less lift since the tail is pushing down less. Since= the=20 wing needs to provide less lift, the required AoA decreases. Since the trim= =20 angle of attack decreases, the trim system needs to be adjusted. (Airplanes= =20 are not trimmed to fly at constant speed, they are trimmed to fly at constan= t=20 AoA. Phugoid oscillations, for example, are varying airspeed maneuvers wher= e=20 the angle of attack is constant.) Since the tail and the wing are generatin= g=20 less lift, they also generate less drag, and the speed increases.=20 <> Less power makes the plane slow down (duh) and the angle of attack must=20 increase to generate the same lift. <> No significant change. The airspeed change here is the wrong way but I=20 submit it is too small to be real. <> Works for me! By the way, changing the tail incidence angle has an even lesser effect than= =20 this. The plane needs to be balanced with a certain amount of down force fr= om=20 the tail. Does it really matter if you have a more cambered airfoil=20 (deflected elevator) or a less camberes airfoil at a higher angle of attack=20= (changing=20 the tail incidence angle)? Well, yes, there's more drag with the less=20 cambered airfoil at higher alpha but the far larger effect is the drag-due-t= o-lift. Don't go cutting off your tails and reattaching them to win races. You'd go= =20 faster by losing ten pounds, and live longer, too. (And yes, I'm still tryi= ng=20 but it's not working for me either!) - Rob Wolf