Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:52:56 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [206.246.194.60] (HELO visi.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.4) with ESMTP id 2608809 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:53:29 -0400 Received: from [68.50.58.204] (account rpastusek@htii.com HELO cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net) by visi.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 134138240 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:51:26 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Bob Pastusek" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: gliding distance X-Original-Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 00:53:10 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <005401c3870e$bf627ae0$6601a8c0@cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Scot Stambaugh wrote: If you have an engine failure isn't it true that you no longer have cabin pressurization... Scot, you'll definitely lose cabin pressurization rapidly with an engine failure. You can also lose it with a significant power reduction at altitude, although there are some other adverse effects, such as shock cooling, that you'll want to consider even during an emergency descent...unless the reason for your descent is that the engine has already decided to "cool itself." I'm not an instructor (any more), but the basic rules still apply: 1) Fly the airplane. It will fly a very long distance, and for considerable time with no engine if you start down from the flight levels, so establish and trim to your best glide speed first. I'd probably get the oxygen mask on and verify the flow of O2 next, but if you're not really high and the ground is close (flying over the mountains?), you might want to turn toward a suitable landing area before working the emergency oxygen. Even at FL 250, you should have a couple of minutes of "useful consciousness;" more if lower. Not something to fool around with at all, but there are legitimate alternative actions after step #1. BTW, IMHO, anyone who flies these machines in the flight levels should be required to go through one of the excellent US military altitude chamber orientations. I've heard it is a bit difficult to arrange/schedule if you don't have direct access to a military base, but the hassle is well worth the effort! One thing the available flight time will give you is the chance to communicate. Good assistance is readily available, from a heading to a suitable landing site to advice about the weather conditions below, to knowledge by a responsible person on the ground that you're in trouble. When you get the above things sorted out, this one comes up next in my priorities. Unless you're seeing pieces of the engine sticking up through the cowling, next is probably a restart attempt. There are a number of malfunctions of these turbo'd engines that can be at least partially "corrected" after you come down a bit. I think Don Goetz blew a hose off the (pressurized) intake runner of the factory IV-P some years ago that got his immediate attention, but he was eventually able to restart and land "normally." Restart is certainly worth a try until the time that it detracts you from setting up for a successful landing. As to landing in this situation, one that you walk away from is certainly successful by anyone's measure of merit. Having looked at six "crashed" Lancair IV/IV-Ps over the past 8 years, I'm absolutely convinced that IF you can keep the pointy end from impacting the ground at a high angle, you and your passengers can walk away. We are building and flying an incredibly tough and "impact energy absorbing" airplane. It will easily crush to absorb the relatively large amount of kinetic energy that results from it's high "landing" speed during a controlled-crash landing. "Controlled" is the operative word here. I readily admit plagarization from several past contributors to this column in also concluding that unless you can land and stop on a hard surface (e.g. road or runway), I'd recommend you plan to leave the gear up if/when this happens. If the airplane is slowed to minimum flying speed and set down in controlled flight, you only have to avoid hitting vertical obstructions, such as large trees, head on. If you want to see what can be "controlled" by a fellow keeping his wits during a crash, read about and look at the pictures of Ron Brice's recent accident... If you're flying one of these beauties, hope you've already thought through this scenario and either agree or disagree...it's probably too late to ask about "time of useful consciousness" when the engine quits... Bob Pastusek