Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 23:46:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com ([24.93.67.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.4) with ESMTP id 2601010 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:53:46 -0400 Received: from user.sc.rr.com (cae88-105-147.sc.rr.com [24.88.105.147]) by ms-smtp-01.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h8O2kH0R004916 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:46:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-Id: <6.0.0.22.0.20030923223117.01b60558@pop-server.sc.rr.com> X-Sender: sreeves@pop-server.sc.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.0.22 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:52:39 -0400 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List From: Steve Reeves Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Aerobatics In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed OK, you've done it. You've scared the living crap out of me (and I guess that's a good thing) and I'm going to get some acro instruction. I've just never really considered an acro school (not because it's not fun or too expensive or anything like that) because all that I really want to do in my Glasair is an aileron roll. It's rated for +6 and -4 G's. I've been flying it for 2 years now (flew a Pulsar before that). I never considered it because I don't plan on ever doing any "hard core" acro. My main question is this: How much of that carries over from flying a plane designed for that, and carrying over to the Glasair? I really do appreciate the input because I do have the utmost respect for aircraft (even bought a chute to comply with regulations...but would I have the balls to use it?), and all I keep telling myself it "How much can go wrong in a quick little aileron roll?". Alot I guess. But that's why I put these things out here because I always get good advice (even if you guys do fly that other glass airplane). If any of you acro instructors are near the Columbia SC area and want to make some fast $$$, drop by and show me how to roll this thing safely :), or I can come to you. I do have a 33% scale Extra 300L and 33% Pitts Ultimate with smoke that I've flow in IMAA competition before (that's models for those not in the know). Does that count any? ;) I would assume that I am correct in stating that our planes need to be pitched at such an extreme in a roll due to the semi-symmetrical wing and dihedral versus the symmetrical no-dihedral of aircraft like the Extra. RC trainers have to be pitched like a mofo to do a decent roll while any of the good aerobatic stuff will roll on a wire. That's why I'd like to know how much carries over from a plane designed for that vs one that is not. Steve 343ND Academy of Model Aeronautics instructor card holder (seriously!) Just wanna do a roll No Emmelmans, Split S's, Hammerhead turns, lumchevoks, etc. etc. (I'm sure I misspelled plenty of that)