Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1) with ESMTP id 2512124 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 05 Aug 2003 12:16:49 -0400 Received: from Billhogarty@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.12d.2ebfb527 (4254) for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:16:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Billhogarty@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <12d.2ebfb527.2c613260@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 12:16:32 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Las Vegas Accident X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12d.2ebfb527.2c613260_boundary" X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10625 --part1_12d.2ebfb527.2c613260_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Brent: Thanks for the input. No, there never was any thought of a "controller argument".. Not sure where that came from as I thought that I made it perfectly clear that I made the decision to takeoff. The tower offered me a choice of "takeoff or clear the runway" The correct answer was to clear the runway. I made the wrong decision. You asked what rotation speed I used. I used 65 knots per the POH; although I have not always been satisfied with that number. I have done some experimenting with higher rotational speeds but have not come up with any firm number yet. I fly mostly from KTCY which is at sea level.. When I rotate at 65 knots the aircraft then has to accelerate nose high until it starts to fly. Using a higher rotational speed does increase takeoff roll and subjects the gear to higher rotational speeds but would reduce the nose high acceleration period. (which is uncomfortable). I guess that there are pros and cons here but I am reluctant to stray very far from the POH. It might be beneficial to hear what other L-IV drivers are using for a rotation speed. Anyone care to comment????? Brent: Thanks for your thoughts. Appreciate it. Bill Hogarty --part1_12d.2ebfb527.2c613260_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Brent:

Thanks for the input.  No, there never was any thought of a "controller= argument"..  Not sure where that came from  as I thought that I m= ade it perfectly clear that I made the decision to takeoff.  The tower=20= offered me a choice of "takeoff or clear the runway"  The correct answe= r was to clear the runway.  I made the wrong decision.

You asked what rotation speed I used.  I  used 65 knots per the PO= H;  although I have not always been satisfied with that number.  I= have done some  experimenting with higher rotational speeds but have n= ot  come up with any firm number yet.  I fly mostly from KTCY whic= h is at sea level..  When I rotate at 65 knots the aircraft then has to= accelerate nose high until it starts to fly.  Using a higher rotationa= l speed does increase takeoff roll and subjects the gear to higher rotationa= l speeds but would reduce the nose high acceleration period. (which is uncom= fortable).   I guess that there are pros and cons here but I am re= luctant to stray very far from the POH.  It might be beneficial to hear= what other L-IV drivers are using for a rotation speed.  Anyone care t= o comment?????

Brent:  Thanks for your thoughts.  Appreciate it.  Bill Hogar= ty --part1_12d.2ebfb527.2c613260_boundary--